Books I Haven't Read 1: The Vision of the Annointed

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Doctor Scratch wrote:It's not a "watershed moment" at all.

Of course it's not, silly.

None of your "watershed moments" ever are.

Doctor Scratch wrote:It's par for the course. You guys have been doing this stuff for decades--without a single shred of remorse.

Well, strictly speaking, of course, that's not possible. Facebook hasn't been around for decades.

But I get the spirit of what you're saying. Yes, I did reply to that Facebook post without so much as a smidgin of remorse. And I've been doing similar things (e.g., answering telephone calls, making public comments, replying to letters, offering opinions, responding to e-mails, going out in public, answering spoken questions, etc.) for many years now, and without much guilt about doing so.

Doctor Scratch wrote:But isn't it fun to make broad insinuations on PMs that will never see the light of day?

Evidently!

That, I take it, is why you're always breathlessly revealing what your "secret informants" supposedly tell you. Assuming, for the sake of discussion, that they really exist, you do seem to get a charge out of making broad insinuations on the basis of anonymous PMs that will never see the light of day.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:It's par for the course. You guys have been doing this stuff for decades--without a single shred of remorse.

Well, strictly speaking, of course, that's not possible. Facebook hasn't been around for decades.

But I get the spirit of what you're saying. Yes, I did reply to that Facebook post without so much as a smidgin of remorse. And I've been doing similar things (e.g., answering telephone calls, making public comments, replying to letters, offering opinions, responding to e-mails, going out in public, answering spoken questions, etc.) for many years now, and without much guilt about doing so.


Huh. So it's really that widespread, then? You can't so much as "answer spoken questions" or "answer phone calls" without an element of revenge, condescension, passive-aggressive vindictiveness, and so on? Without "tweaking"?

And I know that you feel no guilt. It's why (apparently) you failed to apologize to those JWs that you "destroyed" on your mission. Sure: you say that you felt "terrible." But big whoop-dee-do. You doled out the harm and did nothing to correct it. Incidentally, isn't remorselessness one of the hallmarks of psychopathy and/or sociopathy? Along with cruelty to animals? (You *do* remember "water bombing" that cat back in Israel, don't you? I can supply the quote if it'll jog your memory...)

Tweak, tweak, Dr. P.!

Doctor Scratch wrote:But isn't it fun to make broad insinuations on PMs that will never see the light of day?

Evidently!

That, I take it, is why you're always breathlessly revealing what your "secret informants" supposedly tell you. Assuming, for the sake of discussion, that they really exist, you do seem to get a charge out of making broad insinuations on the basis of anonymous PMs that will never see the light of day.


Does the material from my informants bother you, Dr. Peterson?
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This tension will never go away until you two find a way to release it together. Just sayin. :o
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Doctor Scratch wrote:You can't so much as "answer spoken questions" or "answer phone calls" without an element of revenge, condescension, passive-aggressive vindictiveness, and so on? Without "tweaking"?

Nope. I really can't.

It's awful. If you were a real doctor, I'd seek help.

Doctor Scratch wrote:And I know that you feel no guilt.

Sociopathy?

That's what all the experts say.

Wow. Maybe you are a real doctor!

Doctor Scratch wrote:It's why (apparently) you failed to apologize to those JWs that you "destroyed" on your mission. Sure: you say that you felt "terrible." But big whoop-dee-do. You doled out the harm and did nothing to correct it. Incidentally, isn't remorselessness one of the hallmarks of psychopathy and/or sociopathy? Along with cruelty to animals? (You *do* remember "water bombing" that cat back in Israel, don't you? I can supply the quote if it'll jog your memory...)

Sigh. My long list of horrible crimes against humanity, and even against the animal kingdom, is coming back to haunt me. I never realized, when I began my criminal career, that there would be somebody out there so noble, so single-mindedly dedicated, as to devote his every waking hour and all his energy to compiling a chronicle of my unparalleled life of guilt and cruel, heartless wickedness.

Doctor Scratch wrote:Does the material from my informants bother you, Dr. Peterson?

No, it amuses me.

If you ever got anything significant right, it might obviously worry me a bit, because I wouldn't like the feeling of being spied upon and monitored everywhere I go. But, as it is, no, it doesn't. In fact, to be candid, the zany inaccuracy of your "intel" is actually even a bit reassuring.
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And I know that you feel no guilt. It's why (apparently) you failed to apologize to those JWs that you "destroyed" on your mission. Sure: you say that you felt "terrible." But big whoop-dee-do. You doled out the harm and did nothing to correct it. Incidentally, isn't remorselessness one of the hallmarks of psychopathy and/or sociopathy? Along with cruelty to animals?


What???? Is Scratch really missing the rank hypocrisy? Well of couse not. he doesn't seem to show any signs of feeling terrible about being a big ol' meanie type of jerk. No bad feelings for him must mean he can't feel bad for not apologizing.

I rather enjoy the Dr. Peterson added that little bit about how he felt bad about embarrassing those JWs in that interview. We've all done things we feel bad about, and afterward when feeling like a big jerk idiot realizing we don't have any way to fix it, we're left feeling a little worse. Well, for Scratch, that makes it time to rub some salt in it, it seems. "you were a jerk some 30 years ago?" says Scratch, "well let's see if I can make you feel worse about it now."
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:Does the material from my informants bother you, Dr. Peterson?

No, it amuses me.

If you ever got anything significant right, it might obviously worry me a bit,


Yep. I got the bit about Oaks meeting with Scott Gordon wrong. And the bit about Midgley attacking Meldrum. And the bit about contention over Skousen's Book of Mormon project. And the bit about you dissing the Jewish wedding ceremony.

Clearly, the "wrongness" of all of this is what has contributed to you typing out thousands upon thousands of words in response.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:Yep. I got the bit about Oaks meeting with Scott Gordon wrong.

True. You did.

Doctor Scratch wrote:And the bit about Midgley attacking Meldrum.

Lou Midgley's criticisms of Meldrum are largely a matter of public record. You don't need a "secret informant" to know about them.

Doctor Scratch wrote:And the bit about contention over Skousen's Book of Mormon project.

I don't think I saw that one. But, yes, you're probably wrong.

Doctor Scratch wrote:And the bit about you dissing the Jewish wedding ceremony.

Again, that brief little description of something that I said or did more than thirty years ago as a college student on a bus -- which I can't even remember, but which you've attempted to spin into something sinister and anti-Semitic -- was (and, as far as I know, still is) on an obscure little blog or Website somewhere that I had never even heard of until you announced it.

No "secret informant" was required to find it. Just a weird obsession and a lot of time and effort.

Doctor Scratch wrote:Clearly, the "wrongness" of all of this is what has contributed to you typing out thousands upon thousands of words in response.

Your attempts to defame me are innumerable, and have gone on quite steadily over the past half a decade. Even listing them would require thousands of words.
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Kevin Graham wrote:Thomas Sowell is a professional liar who is only interested in serving far Right Wing extremism. He favors Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter for God's sake. That's enough to discredit anything he has to say. But ever since he was proved wrong about the role of the CRA in the housing crisis, along with his subsequent refusal to admit being proved wrong, that did it for me.

It pains me to say this Kevin, but you are right regarding Sowell. The Community Reinvestment Act had absolutely nothing to do with the housing crises--that fact is absolutely indisputable. The assertion that the CRA played a role in the housing crisis is just as indisputably false as the assertion that the facsimiles published in the Book of Abraham are a correct interpretation of Egyptian. When a professional economist (or Egyptologist) has the cajones to tell his readers something that he surely must know is certainly false, it shows how little regard he has for their intelligence.
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For the record:

1. If I was held responsible for every lie I ever told, every bad thing I ever did, every moment I wore a mask... I'd be damned forever. I may be, in fact, damned forever, but the accumlation shouldn't be held against me on a daily basis. I'll deal with forever when it gets here. Until then, every day is a new day (if I don't always live up to that it's because I'm also quite bitchy... and I own that along with the great Elton John song of a similiar title).

2. We are all hypocrits; some of us are hypocrits in very creative ways, some of us are more mundane. I own my hypocrisy. Some of us don't. Those that don't are simply wrong. I can live with that.

3. I am no one's informant, nor do I talk in PM land about anyone who has PMed me. I like to chat. Find me there two or three times a week.

So... it ain't me. And I haven't read the book either. No doubt it would kick up my GERD, and I spend enough money on meds already.
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It pains me to say this Kevin, but you are right regarding Sowell. The Community Reinvestment Act had absolutely nothing to do with the housing crises--that fact is absolutely indisputable. The assertion that the CRA played a role in the housing crisis is just as indisputably false as the assertion that the facsimiles published in the Book of Abraham are a correct interpretation of Egyptian. When a professional economist (or Egyptologist) has the cajones to tell his readers something that he surely must know is certainly false, it shows how little regard he has for their intelligence.


Yes, and wasn't Sowell the same guy you corrected as to whether government can create wealth? I believe you emailed him and he conceded the point.

The CRA argument is hopelessly untenable, and yet if you pick up one of his books and flip to the index you'll find dozens of pages that talk about it. The CRA is a favorite punching bag by Right Wing know-nothings and the only reason they think the CRA is to blame is because of dishonest hacks like Sowell.
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