Plastic in Provo - The Stepford Image of Mormonism?
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 5422
- Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:38 pm
Re: Plastic in Provo - The Stepford Image of Mormonism?
Well, let's just be happy that it's the women doing it and so far penis enlargement surgery has not become a big thing in the church. The cheap ill-fitting suits are bad enough. I don't want to have to try to avoid looking at the giant bulge when the home teacher comes to visit.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die."
- Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
- Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 4502
- Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:15 pm
Re: Plastic in Provo - The Stepford Image of Mormonism?
just me wrote:cinepro wrote:
I have faith that a God that is ok with cap sleeves but not spaghetti straps, and one pair of earrings vs. two, has the answers to all your questions.
I'm really more interested in why you think that women with breast implants should not serve in the YW. You have mentioned it before so I am left to believe that it is your true take on the subject.
Oh, wait. Dammit. You are good, cinepro. Too good.
I've obviously never been in the Young Woman's program, or been a woman who felt like getting fake boobs, but from my understanding of both, I don't see how a fake boobed woman represents the ideals of the Young Woman's program.
At the very least, if the leaders are supposed to somehow serve as examples for the teenage girls they teach, I don't think such an alteration teaches the right lesson.
for what it's worth, I wouldn't want a man who admitted to taking steroids to bulk up to be in the Young Men's program either.
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 9070
- Joined: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:46 pm
Re: Plastic in Provo - The Stepford Image of Mormonism?
cinepro wrote:I've obviously never been in the Young Woman's program, or been a woman who felt like getting fake boobs, but from my understanding of both, I don't see how a fake boobed woman represents the ideals of the Young Woman's program.
At the very least, if the leaders are supposed to somehow serve as examples for the teenage girls they teach, I don't think such an alteration teaches the right lesson.
for what it's worth, I wouldn't want a man who admitted to taking steroids to bulk up to be in the Young Men's program either.
Some of the ideals of the YW program are damaging and ridiculous in and of themselves. So, I guess I don't see how damning women who are "fake boobed" (by the way, that comes of as very contemptuous) will help the values of the YW program or the women of the church.
You have not given any examples of how "fake boobed" women are bad examples. Nor have you laid out what the "right lesson" is.
ETA: The goal of the YW program is to teach a girl that landing a "righteous" man is the most important thing she can do in life so that she can complete her "mission" to bare children to the Lord.
Men like large, round, perky breasts. So, perhaps implants are just a way to further that goal.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden
~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 5872
- Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:40 pm
Re: Plastic in Provo - The Stepford Image of Mormonism?
This is an american cutlure issue. Its not as if LDS women are blowing away all other groups of women in amount of plastic surgery. Or I don't think that's necessarily the case.
So Utah is ranked 8th per capita? Does that mean LDS have more self-image problems then everyone else? Not really. this is beyond an LDS issue.
Anyway, I think hard as I can and I don't know one woman in our ward who has had breat implants. Must be another anomoly.
So Utah is ranked 8th per capita? Does that mean LDS have more self-image problems then everyone else? Not really. this is beyond an LDS issue.
Anyway, I think hard as I can and I don't know one woman in our ward who has had breat implants. Must be another anomoly.
Love ya tons,
Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 4056
- Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:53 am
Re: Plastic in Provo - The Stepford Image of Mormonism?
just me wrote:Men like large, round, perky breasts. So, perhaps implants are just a way to further that goal.
Amen sister, Amen. Absolutely nothing in the Book of Mormon or the Bible against breast augmentation.
"I'm on paid sabbatical from BYU in exchange for my promise to use this time to finish two books."
Daniel C. Peterson, 2014
Daniel C. Peterson, 2014
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 5422
- Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:38 pm
Re: Plastic in Provo - The Stepford Image of Mormonism?
stemelbow wrote:This is an american cutlure issue. Its not as if LDS women are blowing away all other groups of women in amount of plastic surgery. Or I don't think that's necessarily the case.
True. It's not just LDS women or Utah women. In fact, it seems like just about every web site I visit the women have big fake boobs.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die."
- Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
- Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
Re: Plastic in Provo - The Stepford Image of Mormonism?
just me wrote:cinepro wrote:I've obviously never been in the Young Woman's program, or been a woman who felt like getting fake boobs, but from my understanding of both, I don't see how a fake boobed woman represents the ideals of the Young Woman's program.
At the very least, if the leaders are supposed to somehow serve as examples for the teenage girls they teach, I don't think such an alteration teaches the right lesson.
for what it's worth, I wouldn't want a man who admitted to taking steroids to bulk up to be in the Young Men's program either.
Some of the ideals of the YW program are damaging and ridiculous in and of themselves. So, I guess I don't see how damning women who are "fake boobed" (by the way, that comes of as very contemptuous) will help the values of the YW program or the women of the church.
You have not given any examples of how "fake boobed" women are bad examples. Nor have you laid out what the "right lesson" is.
ETA: The goal of the YW program is to teach a girl that landing a "righteous" man is the most important thing she can do in life so that she can complete her "mission" to bare children to the Lord.
Men like large, round, perky breasts. So, perhaps implants are just a way to further that goal.
Geez...Boobs is something I have never had a problem with. I wish I could give some of mine away. LOL
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 2863
- Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:11 am
Re: Plastic in Provo - The Stepford Image of Mormonism?
stemelbow wrote:Anyway, I think hard as I can and I don't know one woman in our ward who has had breat implants. Must be another anomoly.
Make sure you tell the investigators this BEFORE they show up to your ward.
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 396
- Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:08 pm
Re: Plastic in Provo - The Stepford Image of Mormonism?
I have a family member who said the Holy Ghost prompted her to get fake boobs. From this I think it is safe to say that the higher incidence of fake boobs in Utah stems from the increased spiritual sensitivity of Mormon women to the promptings of the spirit. In fact, we can probably go even further and say that fake boobed women are, in general, more righteous than their natural boobed sisters who aren't as receptive to the still small voice.
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 5422
- Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:38 pm
Re: Plastic in Provo - The Stepford Image of Mormonism?
Hoops wrote:stemelbow wrote:Anyway, I think hard as I can and I don't know one woman in our ward who has had breat implants. Must be another anomoly.
Make sure you tell the investigators this BEFORE they show up to your ward.
speaking of breast implants, where is Hoops.
Oh, there she is.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die."
- Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
- Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775