Radex wrote:Darth J wrote:It's pretty easy. He wasn't being serious at all;
That's a convenient excuse, isn't it.
He was just playing a trick on us! That silly The Mighty Builder. Could have fooled me, and about nine other posters on that thread, but not you, Darth J. You know he was just kidding.
It isn't funny. Perhaps you think Ms. Smart's rapist was
just kidding as well?
I didn't say he was playing a trick, since that would undermine the point of satire (trying to make a point through irony). And I didn't say it was funny, either. I said it was
satire, which is not the same thing as "funny."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SatireA common feature of satire is strong irony or sarcasm—"in satire, irony is militant"—but parody, burlesque, exaggeration, juxtaposition, comparison, analogy, and double entendre are all frequently used in satirical speech and writing. This "militant" irony or sarcasm often professes to approve of (or at least accept as natural) the very things the satirist wishes to attack.
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Yet some satire is not "funny", nor is meant to be.So what we see here is Radex mischaracaterizing what I said, misconstruing what a word means, and then pounding it into the ground to make it look as if I am taking a ridiculous or immoral position.
You know who used to do the exact same thing, in the exact same way, against the exact same person (me)? Simon Belmont. Like the time when he took the word "vicarious"---a word that LDS General Authorities frequently use when describing the Atonement---and mischaracterized the definition of the word to try to make it look as if I was saying something ridiculous about LDS teachings.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15581&p=524813&hilit=vicarious#p524813And here we have the exact same technique, used against me in the exact same tone, by Radex. It must just be another one of those amazing coincidences.
No, I don't feel a duty to apologize because you or anyone else was dumb enough to take it seriously.
Of course you don't. You aren't the one who said those awful things, you're just the one who condones it and runs around with this guy in real life.
If by that you mean condones drawing attention to the wrongfulness of thinking that victims are somehow tainted ("It is better to die in defending one's virtue than to live having lost it without a struggle"), then yes, I condone it. But given your proclivity to hysterically misrepresent what your interlocutors are saying, I am pretty sure that what you really meant is a straw man.
But it is helpful to know that you think the following people are "dumb":
* Morley
* just me
* Buffalo
* Stormy Waters
* LDSToronto
* MsJack
* Shulem
* Dr. Shades
* DrW
* RockSlider
* Blixa
* Drifting
Good people of Darth J's "dumb" list, you are on notice: Darth J is smarter than you are because only he realised The Mighty Builder was just kidding.
Now compare the substance of what was just said and the way in which it was said to Simon Belmont's lunatic rant against his own mischaracterization in the famous "Jesus would have to be raped by trillions of penises" thread, to which I already linked. Or, for another example of the exact same thing directed at the exact same people (me and The Mighty Builder) try Simon Belmont's reaping of the whirlwind in this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=16578&p=404565&hilit=trout#p404565For example, your occasional but inconsistent forays into a caricature of what Americans think British people say, with the notable absence of British spelling.
Cheerio, Radex! Pass the crumpets!
I'm a citizen of the United States, Darth J. I have been for probably longer than you've been alive;
Oh, and naturally a U.S. citizen
who has lived in Utah for 16 years would still call a truck a "lorry." At least you stayed in character enough to spell "realize" with an s. Odd that you only throw in a British spelling when you need to remind people that you are a new board member with a different backstory. I wonder why you don't spell "behavior" as "behaviour."
http://www.mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3 ... 2&p=547076 ETA: Note that Radex has both "behavior" and "behaviour" in that post. You may make your own judgment as to whether this demonstrates a habit of British spelling, or someone forgetting the habits he is supposed to have.
but come now, Darth J. I have no quarrel with you, I just wish you'd realise how off-balance and irrational your friend is. In a way, I'm looking out for you.
Hmmm.....there's something familiar about this. I just can't quite put my finger on it.......
