Can we assume people who think homosexuality is a choice

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Re: Can we assume people who think homosexuality is a choice

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Quasimodo wrote:
Hoops wrote:This thread may have set a record for the most self righteous, sanctimonious, pharisaical finger pointing of any. Well done. Let the enlightenment shine on.


I was thinking that it might be the most anti self righteous, sanctimonious, Pharisaical finger pointing of any. Just me, though.


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Drifting wrote:"Elder Packer, I have a little factory and a little harbor.


Little Harbor. That is by far the coolest thing I've heard in a month.
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just me wrote:
Quasimodo wrote:I was thinking that it might be the most anti self righteous, sanctimonious, Pharisaical finger pointing of any. Just me, though.


Hey! You Quasi...me just me!


LOL! I will have to be more careful in how I phrase things. Just me, you are definitively "just me". However, I don't believe that your are just "just me", but exceptionally "you" (if you know what I mean).
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Hoops wrote:This thread may have set a record for the most self righteous, sanctimonious, pharisaical finger pointing of any. Well done. Let the enlightenment shine on.


When did you make the choice to suppress your homosexual urges and be a heterosexual?
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Re: Can we assume people who think homosexuality is a choice

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zeezrom wrote:
Drifting wrote:"Elder Packer, I have a little factory and a little harbor.


Little Harbor. That is by far the coolest thing I've heard in a month.


Okay, I thought about this for a couple of minutes and realized that to a nevermo, this must sound absolutely horrible and immature.

Which leads me to ask, "What on earth is an apostle of Jesus doing making correlations between factories and sexual organs?"

The things they spend their energy on... astounds me.
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Buffalo wrote: As a lifelong heterosexual, the idea of being able to choose who you are attracted to is so foreign to me. I started noticing girls in Kindergarten. I didn't choose it - it was always just there.


This is an important point you bring up, Buffalo.

I joined the LDS Church fresh out of high school in June of 1978, and probably didn't think about homosexuality that much as it didn't impact me personally. I expect any messages I received in that regard would have been along the lines of what Liz posted.

It was easy to "hate" or be dismissive of homosexuals when I didn't know any.

All that changed after my mission when I went to college as a dance major.

Some of the sweetest people I met were gay. (Am I revealing too much to say my best and dearest friend in college was homosexual?) This was a huge kick in the head for me.

Another fellow I counted as a good friend was a gay black dance student, and absolutely everybody loved him. He was just one of those caring, loving, happy people it is easy to love.

I remember talking with him about the subject one day in the dance department, and he asked me a question I will never forget.

"Consiglieri," he said, "If I told you right now you needed to stop being attracted to girls and be attracted to boys, how would that make you feel?"

"I couldn't do it," I said.

"Exactly. Well, it's the same way for me."

I left that conversation wondering how on earth I could ever have been so stupid.

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Re: Can we assume people who think homosexuality is a choice

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Buffalo wrote:Is this your way of saying you think it's a choice? :)

No, it's my way of saying all this pretentious glad-handing and back slapping is silly. Is there some issue being discussed? Or is this just a pep rally for the enlightened?
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Hey Buffalo did you forget to send out invitations again? Sounds like some people got left off the list and are not happy about it.
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consiglieri wrote:All that changed after my mission when I went to college as a dance major.

Some of the sweetest people I met were gay. (Am I revealing too much to say my best and dearest friend in college was homosexual?) This was a huge kick in the head for me.

Another fellow I counted as a good friend was a gay black dance student, and absolutely everybody loved him. He was just one of those caring, loving, happy people it is easy to love.

I remember talking with him about the subject one day in the dance department, and he asked me a question I will never forget.

"Consiglieri," he said, "If I told you right now you needed to stop being attracted to girls and be attracted to boys, how would that make you feel?"

"I couldn't do it," I said.

"Exactly. Well, it's the same way for me."

I left that conversation wondering how on earth I could ever have been so stupid.

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

I like it.

And if you don't mind, what kind of dance?
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Re: Can we assume people who think homosexuality is a choice

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Hoops wrote:
Buffalo wrote:Is this your way of saying you think it's a choice? :)

No, it's my way of saying all this pretentious glad-handing and back slapping is silly. Is there some issue being discussed? Or is this just a pep rally for the enlightened?

Pep rallies are pretty cool. Our HS pep rallies always included AC DC.

Buff, how about "Back in Black"?
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)

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