DCP Encourages Email Campaign Against Black Journalist

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I think it is certainly not the single parenthood in itself that causes problems.

The best adjusted child I know is the product of a single mother, who happened to have the personal, social and financial circumstances she needed to do the job as well as she wanted to.
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Readers,

I just read the blog entry in question. Dan specifically says that he does not wish to harm Blow's employment. The editor is not Blow's boss, anyway, and Dan specifically says that. Also, from reading the entry, it mentions nothing about race.

This thread was clearly an unresearched (did the thread-starter even read the blog entry?), emotional response to an imagined blog post that reads nothing like it was presented by the thread-starter. Why? Is it not more important to be honest than to make emotional cheap shots?
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Radex wrote:Readers,

I just read the blog entry in question. Dan specifically says that he does not wish to harm Blow's employment. The editor is not Blow's boss, anyway, and Dan specifically says that. Also, from reading the entry, it mentions nothing about race.

This thread was clearly an unresearched (did the thread-starter even read the blog entry?), emotional response to an imagined blog post that reads nothing like it was presented by the thread-starter. Why? Is it not more important to be honest than to make emotional cheap shots?


Hi there, Simon. Actually, this post you're referring to appears to be a new addition to the blog. In other words, what you're describing seems to have been written in response to the comments on *this* thread. Rather than simply saying, "Hey: I probably shouldn't have called for an email campaign against Blow," DCP is instead using the occasion to hypocritically complain about "political correctness," and to make cracks about what he calls "Jewish magic beanies."

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Hi there, Dr. P. Since you've clearly broken your promise to not read this board, how about listenting to a well-meaning suggestion? Just stick to blogging. Knock it off with the Mopologetics.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:Yes: that's true, but it's not what I'm talking about. I was talking about sending emails to the man's boss.


Do you think that his boss found out from Daniel or the WSJ? Is his boss, in your opinion, not likely interested in how readers react to his controversial tweets? Is it none of his boss's business? I am unclear about your viewpoint here.

Is it simply the case that you disapprove of tattling?

I think this is a little different from the Murphy business, but it seems you do not agree.


The thing is, I can get your criticism of Blow. Fine, I say--your attacking what appears to be a double standard. With the Mopologists, though, you will get people complaining about double standards who complain at the same time about "political correctness." Well, which is it? Do you want to be treated as a protected, minority group? Or do you want to be able to provide pretzle-logic avoidance games on the issue of whether or not Brigham Young--or other of the Brethren--said racist things? The Mopologists want to label things such as Blow's comment as "bigotry," but they are unwilling to concede--not even one inch!--that the institution to which they pledge loyalty is also guilty of bigotry.

And regardless, I don't think there was any need to either send an email, nor to encourage others to do so.
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harmony wrote:
I don't think this was a prepared line of attack for Romney as he was quoting the 40% statistic Rick Santorum had just shared but then added to it with the "among certain ethnic groups" not to mention the comments about abusive settings. It was poor judgment on his part at a minimum and I'd argue it came from somewhere inside him rather than from a prepared response. How is that better than Blow telling Romney to stick his (Blow's) success as a black single parent in his (Romney's) magic Mormon underpants?


I'm trying to figure out how Romney is wrong?

Hi Harmony,

I didn't say what Romney said was wrong. Statistically, what Romney said is correct in that a high percentage of Black as well as Native American children are born out off wedlock.

What I was getting at was how Romney said it, in particular how it came across to me live during the debate. Maybe it was the tone or the cadence of his comment, but when he took the statistic Rick Santorum had just cited about 40% of children being born out of wedlock and then added in rapid succession the comment about ethnic groups, then poverty, then abuse - it came across as being much more offensive than some of the quotes Romney has been hit with by the media in the recent past. For that reason, I think I understand Blow's feelings and why he said what he said at that point in time. And that is what I meant by it seemed to come from somewhere inside him. It's interesting that he'll be called out for saying something about owning multiple cars including Cadillacs and Ford Mustangs because it shows how out of touch he is, yet I didn't think twice about that comment. He's rich, of course he has more than one car and probably nice ones at that. The comment from the Arizona Debate was something else, to me anyway. Being "pro" two-parent households is understandable and that was how I read Santorum's response. Romney's response seemed to be an attempt to "one up" Santorum and how he chose to do so was done with poor judgment, in my opinion.

Anyway, the context made his comment seem "wrong" in a moral sense, not in a statistical sense.

Blow apologized and moved on. So, I don't know that his involvement is that much of an issue to me.
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What happened to my post in response to liz's response to Darth J?
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Bond James Bond wrote:What happened to my post in response to liz's response to Darth J?


I must have missed that, Bond. What did your post say?
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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Bond James Bond wrote:What happened to my post in response to liz's response to Darth J?


I must have missed that, Bond. What did your post say?


Liz responded to Darth J's "Screw you" to harmony with a subsequent "Screw you" because she can't get government aid for her child and has to struggle to put two kids through college despite being a tax payer. And 100$ every two weeks in gas on 100k a year income. So I responded:

"Would you rather make 25k per year and get government aid, but not have a car to put 50$ a week of gas into?" or close to it.
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i would suggest DCP and all who are taking the pot shots by others at mitt romney's Mormonism -you had better be prepared,if mitt becomes the republican nominee, for an onslaught on Mormonism (and mitt's connection to it) the likes of which those in happy valley or anywhere else for that matter have never ever seen before. as i write , i have it on very credible authority that democratic party ads being prepared and screened now,blog subjects being developed on mo'ism, research being performed on Joseph Smith, BY, polyamy, God as man, etc will be the lowest of low blows of any presidential election campaign. these ads and blogs by demo supporters of every kind will make the Book of Mormon musical seem as a primary skit.

so my advice to DCP and everyone else who is sensitive to the way Mormon beliefs, theology and culture are portrayed during the primaries, -be prepared , you will be absolutely shocked at the attack romney, if he is the nominee, and mormanism will receive as the demos push to win in nov.

you heard it first here- zion will be shaken to its very core!!!

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