Best articles that show people can be born gay?

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gdemetz wrote:However, it does seem that you are not Mormon and know very little about the preexistence of man.
Dude, I've been a Mormon since I was 8, some 50 years ago. And I know enough about the "pre-existence" that every Institue teacher I ever had (the full-time, professional, Ph.D. types) said, "Don't say 'pre-existence,' it's an oxymoron, the church now calls it the 'pre-mortal existence."

Get with the correlated program gdemetz, or aren't you a Mormon?
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"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
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just me wrote:He musta been down with that cuz here you are!


Yeah, baby -- and I'm a baaaad boy, too.

Hell yeah.

:biggrin:

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MrStakhanovite wrote:I got this from watching EA take Droopy apart on this issue.



EA has no coherent concept of what he's actually arguing, and he exaggerates the highly conjectural nature of the brain science evidence that does exist (that shows possible predisposition and bias, and nothing more).

EA and I actually agree on most details of the brain science as its stands at present. The problem is that Delusion is forced by his personal philosophy to leap well beyond that evidence into areas that evidence can tell us nothing about. This is apparently both because of his intense secular humanist world view and "physicalist" (essentially metaphysical materialist) philosophy in which all human phenomena - including all mental, psychological, moral, and social/cultural phenomena - are nothing more than epiphenomena of brain chemistry and physiology.

There is strong evidence that genetic, biological factors are responsible, in some percentage of the homosexual population, for predispositions, tendencies, and biases relating to any number of emotional, psychological, and cognitive attributes involved in the development of SSA.

There is not a shred of scientific evidence that homosexuality is biologically innately imprinted in a human organism in a clear, deterministic, reductionsitic manner as a discreet, isolatable, biologically centered cause and effect process.

It just doesn't exist. It is also quite likely that biological/genetic variables are responsible, to some degree or another, for numerous other predispositions and susceptibilities to various influences, stimuli, and experiences, particularly in the early developmental stages of childhood.

This is not a matter of biological cause = effect, however, but of tendency and bias interacting with psychological dynamics, environment, and complex, unique personological variables.

EA is just another manifestation of the amoral, generally leftist but also radical secular libertarian, neo-Enlightenment scientism that has so blighted the human experience for so long and which reduces all value judgments, ethical positions, moral boundaries, and philosophical questions to atoms and their various interactions with one another.

EA doesn't like being termed a leftist, but he's far closer (as are many "strong" libertarians) to a significant branch of the Left than he thinks.

The modern intellectual fashion for genetic determination in everything, including homosexuality, is just The Shape of Things to Come in post-sixties stage make-up.
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lulu wrote:
gdemetz wrote:However, it does seem that you are not Mormon and know very little about the preexistence of man.
Dude, I've been a Mormon since I was 8, some 50 years ago. And I know enough about the "pre-existence" of man that every Institue teacher I ever had (the full-time, professional, Ph.D. types) said, "Don't say 'pre-existence,' it's an oxymoron, the church now calls it the 'pre-mortal existence."

Get with the correlated program gdemetz, or aren't you a Mormon?


That idiot hasn't even confessed that there is no king's name in the writing of Facsimile No. 3. You can't teach him anything because his head is swollen with pride and he is blind. All he can do is timidly point a finger towards BYU as if that will save his sorry ass. What a joke.

The Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 are PROOF that Mormon revelation are lies. gdemetz can't even begin to defend his Facsimile. He doesn't know the first thing in what to do or say. He's stuck. He's a lousy apologist. I already flushed the toilet on him.

:lol:

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Shulem wrote:
just me wrote:Do you mean the pre-mortal life? Do you remember it?


Yeah, I told Heavenly Daddy that I was going down as a gay man and that I was looking foward to committing lots of sexual sins.

Paul O



You just seem more intelligent, mature, and intellectually sophisticated with each new post.

How do you do it, Paul?
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Droopy wrote:How do you do it, Paul?
Butt sex Droopy, wanna give it whirl?
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
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Droopy wrote:Deleted
Oh, damn.
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Yes, I am a Mormon, and I still say that if you understood the preexistence of mortal man clearly, then you would understand how man can carry over the same attitudes and characteristics that they had in a prior life. The same thing will happen after this life. However, I understand how many want to avoid the responsibility of their own thoughts and actions and prefer not to believe that.
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gdemetz wrote:Yes, I am a Mormon, and I still say that if you understood the preexistence of mortal man clearly, then you would understand how man can carry over the same attitudes and characteristics that they had in a prior life. The same thing will happen after this life. However, I understand how many want to avoid the responsibility of their own thoughts and actions and prefer not to believe that.
Are you suggesting . . . pre-mortal butt sex, gdemetz?
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
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