Doctor Scratch wrote:Some of the SHIELDS material indicates that he used to live in Costa Mesa, which is indeed near Anaheim. Now, however, it appears that he lives a stone's throw away from Will Schryver. (If I recall correctly, Hurricane and Cedar City are quite close to each other.) That's interesting that he would boast about that particular level of education. I guess he fancies himself an imitation of the "uneducated" Joseph Smith.
This was more than a decade ago so it may very well be that he has attended college since them. But Cedar City isn't close to Costa Mesa. I drove through Cedar City a month ago. It isn't really close to anything.
Incidentally, Mike is emailing me about my posts that he keeps censoring, telling me he'd post them if they didn't engage in personal attacks. I responded:
Mike, your entire blog entry is a personal attack on Bradford based on one-sided commentary. It is based in ignorance. How will FAIR respond when it becomes clear to you that Bradford was only doing what Church authorities required of him? You're all going to look like a bunch of jackasses. There is a reason why they've marginalized Hamblin/Peterson and their little crew of hit men. What you are engaging in is precisely the kind of thing that has alarmed a number of scholars and authorities in Utah. If you think Bradford is going rogue here, you have it backwards. It was Dan who didn't want to listen or change his ways. He had that opportunity but instead decided to double-down and call their bluff. He made his own bed and he should have to sleep in it. Besides, it isn't like he has lost his job at BYU. He still enjoys his six figure income trotting around the globe while wooing wealthy Mormons donors. The fact that he would use that as leverage against Maxwell is despicable in and of itself.
Don't worry about me posting there again, because I won't. To what end? You people at FAIR are a bunch of fascists who love to control information so that you can shape public opinion to serve your apologetic agenda. You're not interested in what's true, nor are you interested in substantiating your own claims. If Lord Hamblin says something, you pass it on as gospel without hesitation. That is pathetic and I won't apologize for saying it.
John Dehlin wrote:For the record, I'm going to lay out the facts (as I know them) regarding the Greg Smith, Daniel Peterson, Lou Midgley happening of the past few weeks and months.
1) A few weeks back someone contacted me to let me know that the Maxwell institute was about to publish a lengthy, footnoted article dedicated to critiquing/attacking me and Mormon Stories authored by Greg Smith.
2) I immediately emailed Daniel Peterson, and cc'd a few people I consider to be friends, to find out if this was true -- telling him that if, indeed, the story was true, that I would appreciate knowing about it, and that I would be contacting my GA friends to ask for their involvement.
Bold is mine.
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beastie wrote:Given how brazenly apologists have lied about the accuracy of Scratch's intel over the past few years, I will never believe another thing they have to say about the matter.
But what if they say they've seen, for example, a document, with their own eyes, held it in their own hands?
John Dehlin wrote:For the record, I'm going to lay out the facts (as I know them) regarding the Greg Smith, Daniel Peterson, Lou Midgley happening of the past few weeks and months.
1) A few weeks back someone contacted me to let me know that the Maxwell institute was about to publish a lengthy, footnoted article dedicated to critiquing/attacking me and Mormon Stories authored by Greg Smith.
2) I immediately emailed Daniel Peterson, and cc'd a few people I consider to be friends, to find out if this was true -- telling him that if, indeed, the story was true, that I would appreciate knowing about it, and that I would be contacting my GA friends to ask for their involvement.
Bold is mine.
He specified on page 3 of that thread that one of those cc'd on the first email was a GA.
Equality wrote:2) I immediately emailed Daniel Peterson, and cc'd a few people I consider to be friends, to find out if this was true -- telling him that if, indeed, the story was true, that I would appreciate knowing about it, and that I would be contacting my GA friends to ask for their involvement.
I pointed that out on the FAIR blog. But if the GA was included in the "friends" who were CC'ed, then why is "I would be contacting my GA friends to ask for their involvement" a future condition?
cacheman wrote:He specified on page 3 of that thread that one of those cc'd on the first email was a GA.
Thanks for clarifying. I didn't read that far into the thread, and didn't pay much attention to all of this while it was going on.
"It seems to me that these women were the head (κεφάλαιον) of the church which was at Philippi." ~ John Chrysostom, Homilies on Philippians 13