What Mormon Stories is (and isn't) Trying to Do

[_Alter Idem]

Selek's view of 'helping' posters like you is badgering you into silence with burdensome 'CFR's he has no interest in reading or giving any consideration to. Meanwhile, the MODs tacitly allow this bullying. I had left that board for a long time, came back to read because of what happened to Dr. P and I am now reminded of why I stopped posting there. .....If you want answers to your questions, I would strongly advise you to not ask them at MADB (and I sure wouldn't ask them here at MD either, but for other, obvious reasons). It's very sad that I have to say that; at one time, you could have asked questions there and a number of reasonable, good members of the church would have been willing to have a conversation with you, but those days are over.

Thanks. Yeah, I'm not really interested in asking the questions here at MD. I'm mostly just a lurker when I get a few minutes...

I don't expect to be around at MADB for long...I only went over there to get a feel of what is going on after all this Dehlin "wolves" rhetoric the last few weeks - especially the article in MormonTimes...just kind of wanted to know what the church was about.

No one answered my question over there at MADB.... They ran me out at LDS.net. My own family called my SP 700 miles away, and then SP banned me from all callings because of my participation on MS, NOM and StayLDS. If I can't hang out at MS, NOM or StayLDS because they are apostates and wolves, and the folks at MADB treat me like crap....where AM I SUPPOSE TO GO to find out what the church members are like and believe? Surely they are not as "culty" as my LDS family members??????

Anyway, thanks though. I suppose I will just continue my association with the wolves...at least the folks over there can tolerate differences of opinion and are nice to each other.

I'm sorry Cwald. I hope that if the SP isn't letting you hold callings he's at least meeting with you regularly--or your Bishop. There should be something they are doing to help make that a temporary thing. I also don't know about your specific family--if none of them will discuss these things, maybe you can find someone within your ward/stake. There are some good LDS people here, but the atmosphere is not conducive to a fair discussion of your questions. I think there are too many here who won't allow that to take place; even in the Celestial forum.

[_Droopy]

For the Maxwell/FAIR folks, and anyone else who wants to understand what we're trying to do (and NOT trying to do) with Mormon Stories and the Open Stories Foundation.

http://mormonstories.org/355-what-mormo ... -it-alive/

To recapitulate: where can Mormons undergoing a crisis of faith, who have decided they can no longer accept the doctrines, truth claims, and standards of the Church, turn, where they will find others who will support, sustain, endorse, encourage, and legitimize their determination to apostatize from the church, and where they will not be challenged, confronted, or faced with alternative arguments against leaving the Church?

Mormon Stories.

Where can liberal/leftist/"progressive" Mormons who's philosophical, ideological, political, or lifestyle commitments have been found to be inconsistent with the teachings and standards of the Church, go to find solace, support, and comfort and where their lifestyle choices and/or ideology will not be challenged but be accepted and celebrated in a wholly nonjudgmental and relativistic atmosphere?

Mormon Stories.

[_Kevin Graham]

Droopy can leave us, but he can't leave us alone!



Our Peterpologist is only here to take focus off of the historic and embarrassing events now taking place on the Mormon Apologetics timeline.

[_Lucifer]

For the Maxwell/FAIR folks, and anyone else who wants to understand what we're trying to do (and NOT trying to do) with Mormon Stories and the Open Stories Foundation.

http://mormonstories.org/355-what-mormo ... -it-alive/

To recapitulate: where can Mormons undergoing a crisis of faith, who have decided they can no longer accept the doctrines, truth claims, and standards of the Church, turn, where they will find others who will support, sustain, endorse, encourage, and legitimize their determination to apostatize from the church, and where they will not be challenged, confronted, or faced with alternative arguments against leaving the Church?

Mormon Stories.

Where can liberal/leftist/"progressive" Mormons who's philosophical, ideological, political, or lifestyle commitments have been found to be inconsistent with the teachings and standards of the Church, go to find solace, support, and comfort and where their lifestyle choices and/or ideology will not be challenged but be accepted and celebrated in a wholly nonjudgmental and relativistic atmosphere?

Mormon Stories.

Or here.

Where everybody knows your (new) name!

\m/

[_cwald]

Postby gramps » Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:48 am

cwald wrote:all right. I'll go see if I can find it.

Update... Here you go http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/581 ... he-church/



Could you post the actual text, at least the juicy bits, since some of us can not view the board, at all.

Okay. I posted some stuff on the MAD Quotation thread.

[_Lucifer]

For the Maxwell/FAIR folks, and anyone else who wants to understand what we're trying to do (and NOT trying to do) with Mormon Stories and the Open Stories Foundation.

http://mormonstories.org/355-what-mormo ... -it-alive/

Some have called you the devil in disguise. Truth is, I am far too handsome to be confused with you.

How are John & Zipha these days? Will you be marching in their parade this weekend?

\m/

[_Kishkumen]

To recapitulate: where can Mormons undergoing a crisis of faith, who have decided they can no longer accept the doctrines, truth claims, and standards of the Church, turn, where they will find others who will support, sustain, endorse, encourage, and legitimize their determination to apostatize from the church, and where they will not be challenged, confronted, or faced with alternative arguments against leaving the Church?

Mormon Stories.

Where can liberal/leftist/"progressive" Mormons who's philosophical, ideological, political, or lifestyle commitments have been found to be inconsistent with the teachings and standards of the Church, go to find solace, support, and comfort and where their lifestyle choices and/or ideology will not be challenged but be accepted and celebrated in a wholly nonjudgmental and relativistic atmosphere?

Mormon Stories.

Where can fascist meddlers, fringe apocalyptic fruitcakes, and self-aggrandizing swindlers set up shop to peddle their trivial theories about inconsequential topics like where city of Zarahemla was located and lord it over everyone who doesn't accept their baseless noodlings?

The Mopologetic Brotherhood.

No one cares, Droopy. You don't get to excommunicate people just because you don't agree with them... just because they vote for Harry Reed, or listen to John Dehlin podcasts, or skip church meetings to go bowling, have a beer now and then, and what have you.

You have no authority, neither do your heroes in the Mopologetic Brotherhood.

You all were shut down because someone finally realized that you all had gotten way too big for your britches.

As long as you don't publish with the implied authority of the LDS Church backing you, go ahead and scream "witch" until you are blue in the face.

Your diabolism is shameful, but go right ahead. It shows the world who you are.

[_Kishkumen]

I am watching John Dehlin's little powerpoint video on his website and here are the things he states he is not trying to do:

What we aren't trying to do...

Criticize LDS church leadership
Change the LDS church doctrine or policy
Convince people to leave the church
Convince people to stay in the church
Start a new church

There you have it from the horse's mouth. Mormon Stories is not trying to "convince people to leave the church."

Another fail for Droopy.

[_RayAgostini]

For the Maxwell/FAIR folks, and anyone else who wants to understand what we're trying to do (and NOT trying to do) with Mormon Stories and the Open Stories Foundation.

http://mormonstories.org/355-what-mormo ... -it-alive/

I don't have any beef with Mormon Stories. The only regret I have is that there's so much on there to catch up on, and not enough time to do it. In my view MS is balanced and tries to present all angles and viewpoints, and there are podcasts there for everyone; critics, believers, and the just curious.

To the contrary, I'm not a fan of Mormon Expression. I mention this at the risk of the blasting I may receive from John Larsen and those at ME, but the contrast will explain why I like MS. I think ME is too negative towards Mormonism/The Church. One comment there (at ME) from a year or more ago:

For those who think that this podcast is too negative on the Mormon church, let them go to Mormon Stories which has gone from a hard-hitting, direct-questioning interview forum off all types of "Mormons" to a "how I stay in the church when I don't believe" forum and should really retitle itself as Mormon Psychology. Or they can go to Mormon Matters to get their excercise in mental gymnastics and really see how they can bend and shape the Mormon church to fit their belief system. As for me and my house, we shall stay with Mormon Expression.

Thanks for the advice. I'll stick with Mormon Stories.