Can Momrons Call Cher a Bigot?

[_son of Ishmael]

Do you think Cher would ever make fun of a Muslim woman wearing a burqa?

can't agree with you in this case -- in my experience on political message boards, liberals have no problem at all going after islamic fundamentalism, especially in areas where women and gays are affected. what you're posing here is a rightwing strawman, in my opinion.

Your example of the Sikh kacchera is better

[_mocnarf]

Judaism is often criticized by people on the left. Haven't you heard someone mention that those who assert that "homosexuality is an abomination" must also stone shrimp eaters and disobedient children to death? That's a direct reference to the stupidity of sacred Hebrew scripture.

The difference is that the Jewish people look at that scripture as quaint history. But not as operational marching orders for today.

If you would have used Islam for your example instead of Judism then I could agree with you. Islam does stone people to death for rather minor offenses to this day. Islamics are the one's deserving of your disdain.

[_krose]

Surely you don't think Cher dislikes Romney because he is LDS. If so, you must have difficulty explaining her comments about W, and her support of Harry Reid. I haven't seen her dissing any of the several Mormons from the dancing show her son was on, or any Mormon actors or singers.

I think her comments are not politically correct or nice. But rudeness is definitely not bigotry.

Do you think Cher would ever make fun of a Muslim woman wearing a burqa?

While I did buy her "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" record 40 years ago, I doubt that gives me any special insight into Cher's mind, so I have no idea what she might say about a hypothetical Muslim or Sikh running as a rich GOP hose bag.

But do these questions mean you think Cher is a bigot with regards to Mormons? Or is there another point to guessing whether she might be inconsistent in mentioning other religious accoutrements?

[_krose]

I am no fan of the Mormon Church but people like Cher make all kinds of statements about the church that they would never say about other bogus religions like Islam

agree.

for another example, the Sikh kacchera is very analogous to the Mormon garment. if a Sikh man were running on the GOP ticket, would good liberals stoop to mocking his 'holy underwear'? i doubt it.

Two things:

1- Do they commonly believe their underwear protects them from fire, bullets, etc.? If not, there would be no point to the "magic underwear" dig. You must admit that the "protection from harm" angle lends itself to easier taunting.

2- Perhaps it shouldn't be the case, but there is a big difference when the person being criticized is the same race and ethnicity as the critic. Mocking the weird beliefs of an incredibly rich, privileged white guy who belongs to an incredibly rich religion (one that also worked hard to outlaw both gender equality and marriage equality) is not the same as mocking the weird beliefs of an ethnic minority.

[_Drifting]

4. Each person should understand the importance of wearing the temple garment.

Explain that those who have participated in the temple ceremony are privileged to wear the garment of the holy priesthood. In a statement to the Church, the First Presidency said:

“Church members who have been clothed with the garment in the temple have made a covenant to wear it throughout their lives. This has been interpreted to mean that it is worn as underclothing both day and night. …

“The fundamental principle ought to be to wear the garment and not to find occasions to remove it. … When the garment must be removed, … it should be restored as soon as possible.

“The principles of modesty and keeping the body appropriately covered are implicit in the covenant and should govern the nature of all clothing worn. Endowed members of the Church wear the garment as a reminder of the sacred covenants they have made with the Lord and also as a protection against temptation and evil. How it is worn is an outward expression of an inward commitment to follow the Savior” (First Presidency letter, 10 Oct. 1988).

("Endowed From On High")