consiglieri wrote:Mormons tend to view Job through the eyes of the correlated manual, which ignores virtually all of the earlier poetic text and focuses instead on the later added prologue and epilogue, turning it into a morality play about those who perservere in righteousness being blessed with . . . prosperity.
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
Which Mormons? Russian Mormons in Russia? Swedish Mormons in Sweden? Finnish Mormons in Finland? German Mormons in Germany? Which Mormons are you writing about?`Mormons are all over the world. And prosperity takes on different connotations culturally.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
why me wrote: Which Mormons? Russian Mormons in Russia? Swedish Mormons in Sweden? Finnish Mormons in Finland? German Mormons in Germany? Which Mormons are you writing about?`Mormons are all over the world. And prosperity takes on different connotations culturally.
Why me, please stop with the definition shifting already.
The Book of Mormon itself makes clear in multiple places that its definition of "prosperity" means getting more stuff; such as flocks and herds, gold and silver, and all manner of precious things. Helaman 3:36 equates "prosperity" with "great riches."
Your talk of prosperity taking on "different connotations culturally" makes me "begin to doubt the equivocation of the fiend that lies like truth."
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)
ludwigm wrote: - Have You any negative attribute? - Yes, I am too humble.
How shameful. I for one have always taken a great deal of pride in my humility.
Another end of story:
- Have You any negative attribute? - Yes, I am lying sometimes. OK, often. Well, always.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
consiglieri wrote: Why me, please stop with the definition shifting already.
The Book of Mormon itself makes clear in multiple places that its definition of "prosperity" means getting more stuff; such as flocks and herds, gold and silver, and all manner of precious things. Helaman 3:36 equates "prosperity" with "great riches."
Your talk of prosperity taking on "different connotations culturally" makes me "begin to doubt the equivocation of the fiend that lies like truth."
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
And Helaman 3:24-26 gives a different definition to prosperity. And in Helaman 3:36 prosperity became something evil. So, what is your point?
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
ludwigm wrote: - Have You any negative attribute? - Yes, I am too humble.
How shameful. I for one have always taken a great deal of pride in my humility.
I think you may find that I am more humble than you...
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
consiglieri wrote: Why me, please stop with the definition shifting already.
The Book of Mormon itself makes clear in multiple places that its definition of "prosperity" means getting more stuff; such as flocks and herds, gold and silver, and all manner of precious things. Helaman 3:36 equates "prosperity" with "great riches."
Your talk of prosperity taking on "different connotations culturally" makes me "begin to doubt the equivocation of the fiend that lies like truth."
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
Have you ever been abroad when these chapters were discussed? I have. Trust me, very few europeans or asians equate prosperity in a positive way since it leads to pride and envy. And no one equates righteousness with such wealth. You need to step out of your american shoes.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
consiglieri wrote: Why me, please stop with the definition shifting already.
The Book of Mormon itself makes clear in multiple places that its definition of "prosperity" means getting more stuff; such as flocks and herds, gold and silver, and all manner of precious things. Helaman 3:36 equates "prosperity" with "great riches."
Your talk of prosperity taking on "different connotations culturally" makes me "begin to doubt the equivocation of the fiend that lies like truth."
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
Have you ever been abroad when these chapters were discussed? I have. Trust me, very few europeans or asians equate prosperity in a positive way since it leads to pride and envy. And no one equates righteousness with such wealth. You need to step out of your american shoes.
Speaking as a European, living in Europe as part of an active European Mormon family, European Ward and European Stake. I can categorically state that yes, Europeans equate wealth with righteousness within the Church. What I mean is that the wealthy members are viewed as more righteous by those with more meagre means.
Of course this means Why Me is talking out of his ass....
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Speaking as a European, living in Europe as part of an active European Mormon family, European Ward and European Stake. I can categorically state that yes, Europeans equate wealth with righteousness within the Church. What I mean is that the wealthy members are viewed as more righteous by those with more meagre means.
Of course this means Why Me is talking out of his ass....
You know, Europeans who join a strange American religion like the CoJCoLDS are, well, possibly a bit unusual, shall we say?
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
