Another Sad Day in Sunday School

[_Infymus]

Sorry zeezrom, different meaning when you add "for me".

My original thought still applies.

[_cafe crema]

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AMEN! If we are evolving into just another Presbyterian sect, then let's act like one, and have Sacrament Meeting and go home for the rest of the day. I think the Catholics have the right idea. They can go to Mass on either Saturday or Sunday. It is an hour long service, and they are good for the week.

Not quite. A good catholic should be saying the rosary every day. Also, a devout catholic should attend Mass more than once a week. There are daily Masses every day. And then there are days of obligation and feast days and lent. But yes, most catholics attend one Mass a week, if that.

A good Catholic does not have to say the Rosary at all if that type of spiritual exercise isn't helpful for them, the same with daily Mass a Catholic need not attend any daily Mass. Proving yet again you don't know anything about being a Catholic.

[_why me]

A good Catholic does not have to say the Rosary at all if that type of spiritual exercise isn't helpful for them, the same with daily Mass a Catholic need not attend any daily Mass. Proving yet again you don't know anything about being a Catholic.

The Church law that obligates Catholics to go to Mass is canon 1247:

On Sundays and other holy days of obligation, the faithful are obliged to participate in the Mass. Moreover, they are to abstain from those works and affairs that hinder the worship to be rendered to God, the joy proper to the Lord’s day, or the suitable relaxation of mind and body.

I said devout catholics and not good catholics attending mass. And good catholics should say the rosary every day. Nuns and priests have Mass every day. And a devout catholic can follow their example.

Also about praying the rosary:

http://www.ewtn.com/devotionals/prayers/rosary/

The site recommends daily saying of the rosary.

Are you sure that you are catholic? I tend to doubt it. Or if you are, you seem to be a marginal catholic who just likes to beat on Mormons. Hopefully I am wrong.

[_cafe crema]

A good Catholic does not have to say the Rosary at all if that type of spiritual exercise isn't helpful for them, the same with daily Mass a Catholic need not attend any daily Mass. Proving yet again you don't know anything about being a Catholic.

The Church law that obligates Catholics to go to Mass is canon 1247:

On Sundays and other holy days of obligation, the faithful are obliged to participate in the Mass. Moreover, they are to abstain from those works and affairs that hinder the worship to be rendered to God, the joy proper to the Lord’s day, or the suitable relaxation of mind and body.

I said devout catholics and not good catholics attending mass. And good catholics should say the rosary every day. Nuns and priests have Mass every day. And a devout catholic can follow their example.

Also about praying the rosary:

http://www.ewtn.com/devotionals/prayers/rosary/

The site recommends daily saying of the rosary.

Are you sure that you are catholic? I tend to doubt it. Or if you are, you seem to be a marginal catholic who just likes to beat on Mormons. Hopefully I am wrong.

EWTN recommends "frequent even daily" reciting of the Rosary, but this is not required to be either a good or a devout Catholic. Not to mention that EWTN is not in the position to put requirements on the faithful. The Rosary is just one of many spiritual practices available to Catholics and in no way is a measure of devoutness. The same holds true with attending Mass, one only has to attend Mass on Sundays and Holy Days of obligation. Attending more is not proof of devoutness.

You seem to have an understanding of how one lives their Catholic faith formed from watching TV, it seems the only 2 things you can come up with are those devices used in movies and television to say "this is a Catholic". And of course as usual you miss one huge thing when it comes to Catholic practice.

[_hobo1512]

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AMEN! If we are evolving into just another Presbyterian sect, then let's act like one, and have Sacrament Meeting and go home for the rest of the day. I think the Catholics have the right idea. They can go to Mass on either Saturday or Sunday. It is an hour long service, and they are good for the week.

Not quite. A good catholic should be saying the rosary every day. Also, a devout catholic should attend Mass more than once a week. There are daily Masses every day. And then there are days of obligation and feast days and lent. But yes, most catholics attend one Mass a week, if that.

Quit being a google Catholic. And a bad one at that.

The Rosary is not a requirement. Daily Mass is not a requirement. Neither is required in order to be a "devout" Catholic.

Sunday obligation, Holy Days, are the only required Masses that must be attended.

Confession is required once per year, and communion is required only once per year, and preferably during the Easter season.

[_Droopy]

I think the main dilemma Mormons get into when they really want to learn more is that they are put into this vicious circle where they want to learn more, but are told there is nothing more to learn.

Really? Who has ever said this?

CFR.

They keep reading the scriptures while simultaneously reading into the scriptures contemporary Mormonism, with the result they are ever learning and never able to come to a knowledge of the truth.

Now, in thinking carefully about such claims, when coming from an apostate critic of the Church such as Consig, one must understand that what we really have here is just more of the same ark steadying, but with the understanding that consig, and others like him don't really even know what ark their fumbling, self-anointed and thick, politically correct fingers are grasping.

The loss of that knowledge may have occurred because trying to steady the ark with one hand while milking a golden calf with the other ended by producing precisely the phenomena of having taken from one "even the light which he has received" as one substitutes one's own gospel for that of the Savior and one's smug apostasy and rebellion against the latter-day kingdom continues and takes ever deeper root.

Perhaps this thread would be more valuable if we discussed how this hurdle can be surmounted. In other words, how do you take somebody who is unconsciously reading one particular preconceived view into the scriptures and help them see there is a world of meaning beyond that myopic understanding?

Yes, we know consig. Only the NOM's; the sophisticated, enlightened, fashionably liberal, hip, and, of course, formally educated and degreed LDS intelligentsia are qualified to interpret doctrine, teach the gospel, expound the scriptures, and perfect the Saints.

I know how people like you pine away for and dream of that day when the Saints will raise their right hands to sustain, not Thomas Monsen and his counselors, and the Quorum of the Twelve, but you, David Bokovoy, Joanna Brooks, D. Micheal Quinn, Anthony Hutchinson, Gerald Bradford etc. as the "leaders" of the Church. I mean, we really do have to stop calling people by revelation and priesthood authority to fill those positions and admit only degreed scholars/academics from name institutions (preferably Ivy League), who also have the correct contemporary political, social, and philosophical views, into the ranks of the General Authorities.

What we need, Consig, is the Great and Spacious Church. Combine the two so that there may be harmony and peace between the world and the Church. Isn't that what the gospel is all about? Oneness? Unity? Did not Christ tell us that we are to be "one" and there is to be no contention among us?

[_Darth J]

just more of the same ark steadying

he said, as he continued to issue fatwahs against those he judged to be apostate.

[_Darth J]

You know, at least guys in the Taliban have the guts to fight, instead of just putting up blogs to cyberstalk the infidels.

[_consiglieri]

Did not Christ tell us that we are to be "one" and there is to be no contention among us?

Funny you should choose to end with that line . . .

[_Droopy]

just more of the same ark steadying

he said, as he continued to issue fatwahs against those he judged to be apostate.

Your real problem, Darth, is that you're knowledge of LDS doctrine is effectively zero (not all that uncommon among critics of the Church, by the way). That's a heavy burden to struggle under, hating, despising, and attacking a system of religion on a continual and consistent, and yes, obsessive basis, without any substantive background in the system of religion attacked.

Knowledge = credibility.

See Kish, he'll let you in on the secret.