Joseph Smith's Picture emerges

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Rollo Redux wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:44 am
Dwight wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:49 pm
There is a compelling argument with the portrait and photo used in that they both seem to have the scar of sorts above his left eye. I also thought the death mask overlays it felt like it fit better with Joseph's. Also it feels weird that Joseph's heirs would have a locket of Hyrum to pass down, but I am all for letting further experts look at it. An amazing thing to have even if it is Hyrum.
I too noticed the unique vertical crease between the eyes in both the painting and photo. That sealed it for me: a legit photo of Joseph. The real Joe was not nearly as boyishly handsome the Church likes to portray. He looks rather ordinary.
not "boyishly handsome," i agree, the picture Moksha posted at the top of page 3 is that. but i have to disagree with you on one thing, this new picture is anything but ordinary. He's got that bad boy intrigue, which fits much better with the stories of his cheating nature and dishonest approach to relationships. my grandmother would have called him a "scalawag," and i guarantee that my mom, who had a crush on young Elvis, would have found this photo irresistible, even though she walked the straight and narrow in her TBM life. think Travolta in Grease, Johnny Depp in Crybaby, James Dean in anything. He would have known this and clearly tried to use it to charm everyone.

None of this, by the way, excuses the reprehensible way Joseph Smith treated people, most specifically his wife, the little girls he stalked, and the men he sent away so he could have their wives. But, it seems clear he used his looks and body to his full advantage as he went through life, every dishonest and despicable step of the way.
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Marcus wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:09 pm
Rollo Redux wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:44 am

I too noticed the unique vertical crease between the eyes in both the painting and photo. That sealed it for me: a legit photo of Joseph. The real Joe was not nearly as boyishly handsome the Church likes to portray. He looks rather ordinary.
not "boyishly handsome," i agree, the picture Moksha posted at the top of page 3 is that. but i have to disagree with you on one thing, this new picture is anything but ordinary. He's got that bad boy intrigue,
That is what I thought about the picture. He had the look of a person that could play all kinds of roles. From dominating preacher to a mesmorizing persona with the ladies.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
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Good God Almighty! How could anyone follow that guy?
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Marcus wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:09 pm
But, it seems clear he used his looks and body to his full advantage as he went through life, every dishonest and despicable step of the way.

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Smith looks like the creep.
Marcus wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:09 pm
He's got that bad boy intrigue
Nah! He looks like the weird conservative uncle.
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I finally recall which ‘80s actor this daguerreotype reminds me of. Grant Goodeve from Eight is Enough.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:02 am
I finally recall which ‘80s actor this daguerreotype reminds me of. Grant Goodeve from Eight is Enough.
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That looks more like Hyrum Smith to me.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:44 am
That looks more like Hyrum Smith to me.
Agreed.
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Looks pretty close ....
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Emma and all the granddaughters treasuring and wearing this locket picture suggest it is Joseph.
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