DCP yearns for a hedonistic physical heaven with sex, drugs, and rock and roll

[drumdude]

As I've said on many occasions, I am what might be called a "quasi-universalist." Although, given human agency, there will almost certainly be some who defiantly reject God forever. But I doubt that there will be many of them.

I have no doubt that many people if not most of humanity will likely be assigned to the Telestial Kingdom. However, although I realize that I'm on uncertain theological ground, I hope that they won't stay there.

This is the closest I've seen DCP come to admitting that the lack of progression between kingdoms makes his quasi-universalist position quite hollow.

I would go even farther, and say that most Mormons believe strongly that there will be NO progression between kingdoms. Including Russell Nelson, who's talk about Terrestrial and Celestial resurrected bodies strongly implies it.

It's a bit of a catch-22. If there is progression between kingdoms, it looks great for Universalism but it makes following the Mormon commandments in this life meaningless. You can just fix it later after you die.

If there isn't progression between kingdoms, then huge swaths of humanity are arbitrarily cut off from the highest level of heaven.

[MG 2.0]

Change your question to "will as a matter of fact look like" from "might look like" and the list might be more approachable. Do your homework though. "Will" carries a lot more force than "might". Do you want to rephrase your question?

Oh, there are still going to be some concerns even if you make the change. Do you want to give it a go?

Regards,
MG

Do you think there is anything on my list that shouldn’t be on it? Have I missed anything that you think should be on the list?

The list isn't a good fit to the question you are asking. That's why I'm asking you to clarify. I know, that might throw a monkey wrench into things. I get it.

Regards,
MG

[I Have Questions]

Do you think there is anything on my list that shouldn’t be on it? Have I missed anything that you think should be on the list?

The list isn't a good fit to the question you are asking. That's why I'm asking you to clarify. I know, that might throw a monkey wrench into things. I get it.

Regards,
MG

Aren't you aware of what the full criteria is for entry into the top level of the CK? Is that why you’re struggling to answer my very simple and straightforward question?

[MG 2.0]

The list isn't a good fit to the question you are asking. That's why I'm asking you to clarify. I know, that might throw a monkey wrench into things. I get it.

Regards,
MG

Aren't you aware of what the full criteria is for entry into the top level of the CK? Is that why you’re struggling to answer my very simple and straightforward question?

I think we're done here. I'll leave it to others to determine whether it is you or me who is being evasive.

Either you conform/change and do what you ask others to do (answer questions) ...or you will have to find someone else's time to waste. I've wasted enough time with you for now.

Regards,
MG

[I Have Questions]

Aren't you aware of what the full criteria is for entry into the top level of the CK? Is that why you’re struggling to answer my very simple and straightforward question?

I think we're done here. I'll leave it to others to determine whether it is you or me who is being evasive.

Either you conform/change and do what you ask others to do (answer questions) ...or you will have to find someone else's time to waste. I've wasted enough time with you for now.

Regards,
MG

Lol, you don’t actually know!

[I Have Questions]

As I've said on many occasions, I am what might be called a "quasi-universalist." Although, given human agency, there will almost certainly be some who defiantly reject God forever. But I doubt that there will be many of them.

I have no doubt that many people if not most of humanity will likely be assigned to the Telestial Kingdom. However, although I realize that I'm on uncertain theological ground, I hope that they won't stay there.

This is the closest I've seen DCP come to admitting that the lack of progression between kingdoms makes his quasi-universalist position quite hollow.

I would go even farther, and say that most Mormons believe strongly that there will be NO progression between kingdoms. Including Russell Nelson, who's talk about Terrestrial and Celestial resurrected bodies strongly implies it.

It's a bit of a catch-22. If there is progression between kingdoms, it looks great for Universalism but it makes following the Mormon commandments in this life meaningless. You can just fix it later after you die.

If there isn't progression between kingdoms, then huge swaths of humanity are arbitrarily cut off from the highest level of heaven.

You make a good point. The Afore is at odds with his own Prophet on this one.

[Philo Sofee]

This is the closest I've seen DCP come to admitting that the lack of progression between kingdoms makes his quasi-universalist position quite hollow.

I would go even farther, and say that most Mormons believe strongly that there will be NO progression between kingdoms. Including Russell Nelson, who's talk about Terrestrial and Celestial resurrected bodies strongly implies it.

It's a bit of a catch-22. If there is progression between kingdoms, it looks great for Universalism but it makes following the Mormon commandments in this life meaningless. You can just fix it later after you die.

If there isn't progression between kingdoms, then huge swaths of humanity are arbitrarily cut off from the highest level of heaven.

You make a good point. The Afore is at odds with his own Prophet on this one.

Too bad Nelson doesn't have a Ph.d in ancient history, it would give him more credibility in the Afore's eyes.

[MG 2.0]

I think we're done here. I'll leave it to others to determine whether it is you or me who is being evasive.

Either you conform/change and do what you ask others to do (answer questions) ...or you will have to find someone else's time to waste. I've wasted enough time with you for now.

Regards,
MG

Lol, you don’t actually know!

Change the wording in the question. As it is, it’s a trick question…and you know that.

Regards,
MG

[I Have Questions]

Lol, you don’t actually know!

Change the wording in the question. As it is, it’s a trick question…and you know that.

Regards,
MG

By all means answer the question you think I should have asked