DCP Responds to Getting "Fired" from the Review

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Kevin Graham wrote:No doubt Ray is having a meltdown precisely because he bought into Dan's lies all these years about how scratch has no real informant and that everything he says is lies. It must really burn him up now to be proven wrong about all that.


I'm so angry I could murder a toothbrush.
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RayAgostini wrote:
Dr. Shades wrote:In other words, this is your way of saying that Doctor Scratch is doing the smart thing by keeping his real name a secret?

Perhaps he should thank you for inadvertently giving him your seal of approval.


Well, if you're into concealing bribery, theft or murder, then it's a good thing to do it anonymously.

Ooooo, sounds like grounds for defamation against Ray under Ray's evolving internet rules.

I'm getting some popcorn.
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Copied from MAD..

Posted Today, 07:47 AM
Daniel Peterson, on 21 June 2012 - 05:06 AM, said:
Some quick facts, in no particular order, addressing things mentioned above:

*  I have some specific reasons to believe that those to whom I copied my response to Jerry Bradford were not the source of the leak.

*  I have no reason to believe that any General Authority was involved in any way in the decision to terminate my editorship of the Review.

*  Nobody at the Institute has been disciplined in any way for the leak.

*  My travels were not financed by the Maxwell Institute.  I was in Israel because a wealthy family hired me to take them there; they paid my expenses.  I'm currently in Switzerland, entirely on my own dime.  (And it's breathtakingly expensive.)  I'm biding my time -- didn't want to undergo jet lag too many more times this summer -- until I'm scheduled to lecture on a cruise around the United Kingdom.  The travel company will be paying for that.  I'm trying to use my time here in the Alps (a place that I love, and where I served my mission) to get some work done.  Unfortunately, I've been somewhat distracted of late.  

*  I knew that this would be a melancholy trip here, because the last two times I was in Switzerland and Austria, it was with my brother, to whom I introduced the place and who came to love it as I do.  We were last here -- including the very same small chalet-hotel in Lauterbrunnen where I'm now typing -- in 2010, when we came over for the Passion Play in Oberammergau.  My only sibling, my very close friend, and the last surviving member (besides me) of my nuclear family, he died suddenly at the end of March.  I almost decided not to come here, thinking that the painful associations might be unbearable.  They've been tough indeed, but this recent unpleasantness with the Institute has compounded the problem immeasurably.

*  I don't intend to "go nuclear."  I love the Church, the University, and the Institute.

*  I'm not conscious of having done anything wrong.

*  There are, as I see it, two main factors at play here:  First is a genuine dislike for apologetics on the part of a relatively small group, including, to my very recent surprise, a minority faction within the Institute.  Second is a serious misunderstanding, on the part of certain Institute and University administrators, of some of my actions, attitudes, and statements, which is very difficult to clear up from thousands of miles away.

*  I'm still hoping for a resolution that will be satisfactory to all concerned.  I'm an eternal optimist, though I admit that, in this case, things seem to be stacked against me.

*  I really appreciate the expressions of support here.  I've been receiving emails from many very kind people, and I know that some have written to or called the Maxwell Institute.  I'm grateful for all of this.  I hope that the messages to the Institute will have some impact.

With best wishes to everyone,

Dan Peterson
God has the right to create and to destroy, to make like and to kill. He can delegate this authority if he wishes to. I know that can be scary. Deal with it.
Nehor.. Nov 08, 2010


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lulu wrote:Ooooo, sounds like grounds for defamation against Ray under Ray's evolving internet rules.

I'm getting some popcorn.


I am, in fact, preparing a defamation case against anonymous, so if anonymous wants to challenge it with a defamation case against me, I'm okay with that. It's about time to liven up the days with more than a caffeine hit in the morning, or a stroll around the mulberry bush.

crap man, what a boring life.
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RayAgostini wrote:
lulu wrote:Ooooo, sounds like grounds for defamation against Ray under Ray's evolving internet rules.

I'm getting some popcorn.


I am, in fact, preparing a defamation case against anonymous, so if anonymous wants to challenge it with a defamation case against me, I'm okay with that. It's about time to liven up the days with more than a caffeine hit in the morning, or a stroll around the mulberry bush.

s*** man, what a boring life.

Extra butter on the pop corn, looks like its going to be a long performance.
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DCP wrote:*  I'm not conscious of having done anything wrong.


Well, at least he's consistent.
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TAK wrote:Copied from MAD..

Posted Today, 07:47 AM
Daniel Peterson, on 21 June 2012 - 05:06 AM, said:
Some quick facts, in no particular order, addressing things mentioned above...


Whew! Well, this is a relief. I am glad to see that he is taking heart and gathering his resources to march into battle yet again. Best of luck, Dr. P!

I will continue to press for an end to the practice of slamming members in good standing in the Review, but I would not want a Review without you at the head of it, doing apologetics as you always have.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
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Eric wrote:
DCP wrote:*  I'm not conscious of having done anything wrong.


Well, at least he's consistent.


Yes, that one raised a smile for me too.

It's a good sign. He's back on his game.
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*  I have no reason to believe that any General Authority was involved in any way in the decision to terminate my editorship of the Review.


Strains Credulity..
God has the right to create and to destroy, to make like and to kill. He can delegate this authority if he wishes to. I know that can be scary. Deal with it.
Nehor.. Nov 08, 2010


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Kishkumen wrote:I will continue to press for an end to the practice of slamming members in good standing in the Review, but I would not want a Review without you at the head of it, doing apologetics as you always have.


A torn heart. Loves and hates DCP at the same time.

Go re-read your Book of Mormon, Kish. Dan is Dan is Dan, and wishing will never change that.

13 And now, my beloved brethren, all those who are of the house of Israel, and all ye ends of the earth, I speak unto you as the voice of one crying from the dust: Farewell until that great day shall come.
14 And you that will not partake of the goodness of God, and respect the words of the Jews, and also my words, and the words which shall proceed forth out of the mouth of the Lamb of God, behold, I bid you an everlasting farewell, for these words shall condemn you at the last day. (2 Ne. 33)


He has been true to the message of the Book of Mormon all his life, and is worthy of respect.

Good night, Kish.
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