Am I responsible for the "culture" of MormonDiscussions.com?

[_MsJack]

"DanG" is another username name under which he posts. Sort of like how saying "Daniel Peterson" isn't "outing" him, since he himself uses it on the board itself.

Pahoran's real name is a username under which he has posted in the past at MADB, yet it's still against your rules to use it here, so this strikes me as a little inconsistent.

I'm not agreeing that Nemesis calling you by your real name is equivalent to you calling Nemesis "DanG"---I do think that what Nemesis has done is worse---but the distinction isn't a large one. If you're posting pseudonymously yourself, it's probably just best to call people by their preferred handles.

[_Milesius]

Rather, my argument three years ago was that it is hypocritical to be answering questions as required in a TR interview and then coming here and anonymously attacking the Church and the Brethren.

This is catagorically untrue. I never attack the church or the Brethren. I simply point out their stupidity, their lies, and their inability to keep their fingers out of the tithing trough for their own gain. One should not retreat from the truth.

I think charging harmony with hypocrisy for holding a TR is justified. (Of course, most of us are hypocrites in one way or another, myself included.)

[_rich kelsey]

Back to butt nipping - Ummm, is there anyone here that doesn't enjoy a good butt nip once in a while?

I sure do!

And, I might add, it has been far too long since my last butt nip. I'm getting the shakes just wondering when the next might come along.

gramps, you have some of the best humor on the board!

[_Dr. Shades]

"DanG" is another username name under which he posts. Sort of like how saying "Daniel Peterson" isn't "outing" him, since he himself uses it on the board itself.

Pahoran's real name is a username under which he has posted in the past at MADB, yet it's still against your rules to use it here, so this strikes me as a little inconsistent.

Pahoran is a registered user here, so he has the right to dictate when, where, or whether his real name will show up here.

If Nemesis registered here, he'd have the same right.

In my case, I wish I could register there and ask him to erase my name, but I've been banned and thus can't do it.

I'm not agreeing that Nemesis calling you by your real name is equivalent to you calling Nemesis "DanG"---I do think that what Nemesis has done is worse---but the distinction isn't a large one. If you're posting pseudonymously yourself, it's probably just best to call people by their preferred handles.

I thought that DanG posts as DanG when not in "Moderator Mode." Is that not the case?

[_Yoda]

I thought that DanG posts as DanG when not in "Moderator Mode." Is that not the case?

That is the case.

Tell you what, though, Pahoran....If you can get some type of assurance from Nemesis that if we do, in fact, remove the Dan G reference from the posts here, that he will remove Shades' real name, I will personally make sure that it is taken care of.

[_Pahoran]

Pahoran's real name is a username under which he has posted in the past at MADB, yet it's still against your rules to use it here, so this strikes me as a little inconsistent.

Pahoran's real name was created as a username on MA&DB for the SOLE purpose of allowing Pahoran to freely discuss something published in his in real life name without associating his in real life name with his Pahoran username.

You know this perfectly well, since you were an active participant in that discussion. Thus, using that as your pretext for associating the Pahoran username with that username was a thoroughly cold-blooded, calculated act of malice.

Such as you excel in.

Regards,
Pahoran

[_Pahoran]

"DanG" is another username name under which he posts. Sort of like how saying "Daniel Peterson" isn't "outing" him, since he himself uses it on the board itself.

Therefore, the difference is quite dramatic. He has no justification to use my real name, since I've never used it to post here or anywhere else.

Actually it's not all that dramatic, Shades. From the first days of the FAIR board, the moderators have always had moderator accounts separate from their ordinary poster accounts. They have been at pains to keep those two "identities" separate. When they log in to their mod accounts, they are working only in moderator mode. When they log in to their "normal" accounts, they're just like any other poster. Trumpeting that some moderator X is poster Y is "outing" them as surely as saying that "Dr Scratch is Mark Hofmann."

Oh, I'm sorry, was that supposed to be a secret? ;)

Speaking of your own in real life name: that's an even more open secret than mine, given the history of a certain ingenious theory about two Mormon religions. That said, per Liz's suggestion, I've sent Nemesis a PM, appealing to his better nature. I honestly don't know how much influence I have, but I've asked the question.

He hasn't replied yet, but I'd suggest that since the posts "outing" Nemesis appeared here first, it might be a worthwhile gesture to start editing them here first.

Regards,
Pahoran

[_Pahoran]

This is catagorically untrue. I never attack the church or the Brethren. I simply point out their stupidity, their lies, and their inability to keep their fingers out of the tithing trough for their own gain. One should not retreat from the truth.

I see.

[Personal insult deleted by mod Scottie] And your obsession with what you call "the tithing trough" shows that you wish you could get your trotters into it. But I wouldn't dream of attacking you, not for the world!

And, by your standards, any assertion that I have attacked you must be "categorically untrue!"

Thank you Scottie. Given that it is a "personal insult" to call Harmony stupid and a liar, I can only conclude that it must likewise be a "personal insult" for Harmony to use those epithets of the brethren she despises.

Thank you again for torpedoing her denial.

Regards,
Pahoran

[_Yoda]

"DanG" is another username name under which he posts. Sort of like how saying "Daniel Peterson" isn't "outing" him, since he himself uses it on the board itself.

Therefore, the difference is quite dramatic. He has no justification to use my real name, since I've never used it to post here or anywhere else.

Actually it's not all that dramatic, Shades. From the first days of the FAIR board, the moderators have always had moderator accounts separate from their ordinary poster accounts. They have been at pains to keep those two "identities" separate. When they log in to their mod accounts, they are working only in moderator mode. When they log in to their "normal" accounts, they're just like any other poster. Trumpeting that some moderator X is poster Y is "outing" them as surely as saying that "Dr Scratch is Mark Hofmann."

Oh, I'm sorry, was that supposed to be a secret? ;)

Speaking of your own in real life name: that's an even more open secret than mine, given the history of a certain ingenious theory about two Mormon religions. That said, per Liz's suggestion, I've sent Nemesis a PM, appealing to his better nature. I honestly don't know how much influence I have, but I've asked the question.

He hasn't replied yet, but I'd suggest that since the posts "outing" Nemesis appeared here first, it might be a worthwhile gesture to start editing them here first.

Regards,
Pahoran

I am not going to spend my time doing those edits unless I know it will make a difference in getting Shades' in real life name off MDD. I'll await Nemesis' response to your PM.

[_Pahoran]

I am not going to spend my time doing those edits unless I know it will make a difference in getting Shades' in real life name off MDD. I'll await Nemesis' response to your PM.

Oh, so not "outing" people here is a question of pragmatism, not principle.

Got it.

Well, AFAICT Nemesis got outed over here before he outed Shades over there. I may be wrong on that point; but if I'm right, then it seems that a gesture of good faith on the part of MDB would strengthen my request to Nemesis quite considerably.

for what it's worth.

Regards,
Pahoran