Rules of Patheos: Midgley appears to violate TOS 10x

[_Dr Moore]

Scratch,

No need for that. The dominant threads on two sites have been two halves of the same basketball court for quite some time. At least for the year or so I have been reading them. The players rarely venture beyond half court, but when shots are made, both sides watch the ball closely in its arc.

I have made extensive screenshots and page saves of SeN threads related to the Prying article discussion. I hope you have as well.

The offer stands. Would anyone like to recommend a Utah based escrow provider and suggest an independent party, or perhaps a voting group of 3 independents, who would pull the trigger on releasing payment once Dan and or Louis decide to apologize for falsely labeling me a liar in the matter of claiming Prying into Palmer was premised mainly as a personal attack, a.k.a. hit piece, a.k.a. character assassination on Grant Palmer?

[_Lemmie]

Louis Midgley
Louis Midgley Doctor Disco 13 hours ago
DD: gemli does not pretend to be Professor Gemli. He does not boast of fake credentials. You should not abuse him by even hinting that he does that sort of thing.

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/danp ... 4590784691

Umm.... From earlier in this thread:

Louis Midgley David Kent
a month ago

Oh rats! I forgot that gemli's MA in experimental psychology.What we don't seem to have is any evidence that this is so.
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gemli Louis Midgley
a month ago

It's an MS, not an MA. You may not have any evidence for this, but the salient point is that the evidence does exist. What I don't claim is that I received an MS from an angel, who handed it to me on a golden plate that was embossed with my school colors, and that when I went up on the stage to receive it I was wearing only one tennis shoe, having left the other one on a ledge at a Seattle hospital.
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Louis Midgley gemli
a month ago edited

I appreciate the slight correction, but we still only have your word for what you claim, and hence no real evidence. Sarcasm is evidence of something, but not that you command any real science.

Maybe midgley avoids the need to apologize by simply never “remembering” what he’s said.

[_Philo Sofee]

but we still only have your word for what you claim, and hence no real evidence.

It's the same with Joseph Smith's First Vision also. Does that stop Midgley from accepting that claim? We have the same for Joseph Smith being threatened by an angel with a flaming sword to smite him to death for not living polygamy. Does Midgley refuse to accept that as well, since all we have is Joseph Smith's word.

[_Dr Moore]

I’m in the SLC city area this coming Weds evening with spare time. As far as I’m aware, I know none of you personally.

If anyone would like to meet for a quick drink or bite, or just a handshake, it would be my pleasure. Since I remain an anonymous participant for now, only requirement is that Shades provides a reference check. PM if interested!

[_Lemmie]

but we still only have your word for what you claim, and hence no real evidence.

It's the same with Joseph Smith's First Vision also. Does that stop Midgley from accepting that claim? We have the same for Joseph Smith being threatened by an angel with a flaming sword to smite him to death for not living polygamy. Does Midgley refuse to accept that as well, since all we have is Joseph Smith's word.

I know, it’s odd. I keep coming back to that witnesses movie also. Honestly, is it really going to be all about just people’s statements? That is literally the least evidential approach to take. ufos and Sasquatch have far more witnesses, and even Strang had witnesses. What a weak premise to spend over a million dollars on.

[_Gadianton]

You should not abuse him by even hinting that he does that sort of thing.

That's what he calls "abuse", huh? If he really does stand before Jesus one day, he might get a talking to about what actual abuse is.

[_Dr Moore]

Still crickets from Dan, Louis and Kiwi57/Pahoran regarding my offer to donate $1,000 to a charity in exchange for each of them apologizing for falsely accusing me of lying about my view that the Prying article was primarily “counterproductive and harmful” hit piece.

We know they have seen it. They each read this board multiple times a day.

What is so scary about making a public apology?

This is really such a simple thing. I’m almost laughing except that it is such a sad example of abject hypocrisy.

Which hypocrisy I have been noticing on the SeN board for about a year now. I just had no idea it extended all the way to the most basic principles of civil discourse.

And I have to say, each day that passes without an apology makes the hypocrisy look all the more sinister.

Dan almost immediately posted a record of my public apology to him. So we know that apologies hold meaning for him.

Are these guys under a secret mandate to never apologize for anything?

It reminds me of the 5th grade bully I knew in grade school who, caught beating up a smaller kid, refused to apologize. He just wouldn’t do it. Not the principal. Not his parents. No one could make him apologize. He was expelled from the school. He had a chance to grow and instead he chose his pride.

By the way, Dan, in case you may hope to have found a loophole of saying nothing for 6 months and then just collecting the $10k donation. Let me be clear. The $10k was “further” as in, predicated on the apology first. Maybe you didn’t think of that. But just in case, now its clear.

“Set aside pride.
Sincerely apologizing to your children, your wife, your family, or your friends is not a sign of weakness but of strength. Is being right more important than fostering an environment of nurturing, healing, and love?”
— Deiter F. Uchtdorf, Apr. 2016 Conference

[Guest]

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... mon-2.html

I offered a warm reminder of this generous offer in the comments section, one comment each directed to Dr. Peterson and Dr. Midgley.

Screenshot here:
https://ibb.co/FXpZ6MG

Doctor Scratch may be right and I may be banned for this. But I did try to make sure the messages were not personally attacking, and rather as uplifting as possible.

[_Dr Moore]

The offer is still there for Mr Kiwi, but I am inclined to require two additional apologies since he doubled down on two more accusations of lying following my $1,000 x2 charity offer. He is a tough nut, but I believe he can do it.

[_Philo Sofee]

“Set aside pride.

Sincerely apologizing to your children, your wife, your family, or your friends is not a sign of weakness but of strength. Is being right more important than fostering an environment of nurturing, healing, and love?”

— Deiter F. Uchtdorf, Apr. 2016 Conference

Cute tactic, but no cigar for Dan and Lou. Everyone knows the church doesn't apologize, and that means its parts don't either, i.e., Dan and Lou. Oaks said this as a General Authority, and he has seniority, so Utchdorf is just out of luck.

Hey they can always point to Jesus as well. You don't read him nor his daddy ever apologizing for killing BILLIONS of people in earth's history do you? So far, no one has escaped God's plan of death!