Writing hundred times "it's a noun not an adjective"...
Joseph Smith, Jr. taught "a prophet is a prophet only when he was acting as such." (From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia "President of the Church" item)
I am teaching (as did I for 39 years, no wikipedia entry about me - yet...): A teacher is always a teacher.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
MsJack wrote:I've demonstrated and referenced my ability to be fair and see the other side of these issues
No. I"ve shown how you've done the opposite of being fair. You haven't even tried to respond to that at all. You've merely suggested you've tried to defend Dan on other non-related things at least twice in your life--considering how completely juvenile it gets around here that should be expected from anyone with the tiniest degree of wanting to see the other side. Sadly, in this case, you've shown you are being unfair. I've explained how. You simply wish to use your past as some sort of reasoning to say you are being fair now. That's not a reasonable approach.
See ya. I know how touchy you can be, so I'm not surprised if you wish to squelch the voices of dissent here too.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
But it's almost as much fun as breaking a hot dog into 1 inch pieces, putting cinnamon oil on a chunk and giving it to the gorilla at the zoo--and then watching him go ape s***.
Mean. Just mean.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
ldsfaqs wrote:For those who missed the above post.... Dan nor the Bishop in question did anything at all wrong.
"Bishop's" contact information, names etc. are PUBLIC INFORMATION!!!!
A Bishop telling Dan there was no Bishop listed in his list is not "private" information, thus not breaking ANY RULE!
Oh how your bigotry is displayed for all to see.....
You're being intentionally obtuse. It is crystal clear that DCP's bishop friend violated the written "conditions of use" when that bishop accessed the Church leadership directory to find information requested by DCP. What the bishop found or did not find, is NOT the issue -- it was the bishop's accessing the directory at the request of DCP.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
But it's almost as much fun as breaking a hot dog into 1 inch pieces, putting cinnamon oil on a chunk and giving it to the gorilla at the zoo--and then watching him go ape s***.
harmony wrote:Mean. Just mean.
It's how a friend of mine met his future wife. He was teasing the gorilla in this way--mean, indeed--she and a friend reproached this then stranger for doing this. Within 10 minutes, he had her phone number and a date that evening. Marriage has now lasted 38 years. Hopefully the burning sensation in the gorilla's mouth was much, much more short-lived.
ldsfaqs wrote:For those who missed the above post.... Dan nor the Bishop in question did anything at all wrong.
"Bishop's" contact information, names etc. are PUBLIC INFORMATION!!!!
A Bishop telling Dan there was no Bishop listed in his list is not "private" information, thus not breaking ANY RULE!
Oh how your bigotry is displayed for all to see.....
You're being intentionally obtuse. It is crystal clear that DCP's bishop friend violated the written "conditions of use" when that bishop accessed the Church leadership directory to find information requested by DCP. What the bishop found or did not find, is NOT the issue -- it was the bishop's accessing the directory at the request of DCP.
Being obtuse is the apologist's best tool. It impresses the faithful without them having to think, and it frustrates the critics who want analytical thought.
ldsfaqs wrote:For those who missed the above post.... Dan nor the Bishop in question did anything at all wrong.
"Bishop's" contact information, names etc. are PUBLIC INFORMATION!!!!
A Bishop telling Dan there was no Bishop listed in his list is not "private" information, thus not breaking ANY RULE!
Oh how your bigotry is displayed for all to see.....
You're being intentionally obtuse. It is crystal clear that DCP's bishop friend violated the written "conditions of use" when that bishop accessed the Church leadership directory to find information requested by DCP. What the bishop found or did not find, is NOT the issue -- it was the bishop's accessing the directory at the request of DCP.
It is only "crystal clear" in minds that are "warped" by hate, bigotry, intolerance toward things and people of light. Darkness clouds your judgment. This is KEY to where you people fail.
I on the other hand have no unrighteous and false judgments toward the Church and it's members, and so I see it for what it actually is, and it's "crystal clear" that the OPPOSITE of your claim occurred. If an actual "wrong" occurred, I would be critical of it, but since it didn't, I'm not. I gave an "example" of the events of what had to occur if an actual wrong had occurred in this situation, but you people ignore it. You chose your bigotry and strawmen over truth and right.
"Socialism is Rape and Capitalism is consensual sex" - Ben Shapiro
ldsfaqs wrote:I on the other hand have no unrighteous and false judgments toward the Church and it's members, and so I see it for what it actually is, and it's "crystal clear" that the OPPOSITE of your claim occurred. If an actual "wrong" occurred, I would be critical of it, but since it didn't, I'm not. I gave an "example" of the events of what had to occur if an actual wrong had occurred in this situation, but you people ignore it. You chose your bigotry and strawmen over truth and right.
ldsfaqs,
Please can you talk us through, step by step, how Daniel would have been able to verify the Church callings for each of the adult males who went on the trip with him without asking someone with access, to search the Church's secure database?
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)
ldsfaqs wrote:I on the other hand have no unrighteous and false judgments toward the Church and it's members, and so I see it for what it actually is, and it's "crystal clear" that the OPPOSITE of your claim occurred. If an actual "wrong" occurred, I would be critical of it, but since it didn't, I'm not. I gave an "example" of the events of what had to occur if an actual wrong had occurred in this situation, but you people ignore it. You chose your bigotry and strawmen over truth and right.
ldsfaqs,
Please can you talk us through, step by step, how Daniel would have been able to verify the Church callings for each of the adult males who went on the trip with him without asking someone with access, to search the Church's secure database?
Two pages before, (viewtopic.php?p=695795#p695795) I wrote that DCP was unethical as tour manager - he has sniffed after a client personality. And this has nothing to do with churches, bishops or Mormonism.
I wrote:I would disable his certificate to make tours - if there is such thing in the country of unlimited opportunities...
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
