dumb, dumb, dumb
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:57 am
INTERPRETER wrote:For Dummies
- North don't mean North
- South don't mean South
- West don't mean West
- East don't mean East
- Width don't mean Width
- Length don't mean Length
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INTERPRETER wrote:For Dummies
- North don't mean North
- South don't mean South
- West don't mean West
- East don't mean East
- Width don't mean Width
- Length don't mean Length
You make an excellent point Doc. And this subject is exactly needed to have visuals. It wouldn't be that hard to put it all together either.Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:05 amI think as you move forward with your theory, it’d be helpful for viewers to see it more as a presentation. Perhaps treat it like a TEDTalk with visual aids. Most people don’t read beyond a sentence or two, or perhaps a quick skim if you’re lucky - especially considering this topic is more academic than entertaining. This is why pictures and videos are so successful, because people do better seeing and watching. I know when I’d do a presentation in the Army I’d always have a slide up, and then I’d bring them into the slide, help them navigate the slide, and then discuss the material in a manner that’d bring us to the next visual aid. If you can keep the visual aids simple and sequential it makes a world of difference. Books and lectures are for academics, but in order to educate the masses it’s about paring the information down, and then baby stepping them through the material with pictures. It is what it is.Shulem wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:56 am
I'm just glad you took the time to ask me to do a picture or diagram. I didn't realize it would have such an impact because it's all been burned into my own mind's eye in a very vivid way and everything I've expressed in this thread is pictured within the visualization of my imagination. If only I had done those pictures earlier then it may have made a difference. It goes to show that written language is not enough. Truly, a picture tells a thousands words and in this case it tells a million.
This thread has been a ride. There are a lot of views and I wonder if people are actually reading this stuff or just click away and go read something stupid instead. This thread is the BOMB! I feel totally armed to the teeth, locked and loaded, bring the apologists before me and I'll wipe them all out single-handedly with my hands tied behind my back and blindfolded. I'm absolutely empowered! Besides, I got Joseph Smith on my side and that makes me invincible. And with Philo on my side taking shots it's a turkey shoot.
Let's hunt apologists!
- Doc
Even the best find to date must cope with the limitations of an author who had never visited the site of his story.Physics Guy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:08 amIf you Google “Delmarva Nephi” you get at least two earlier proposals of the Delmarva Peninsula as the lands of Nephi and Zarahemla, with some counter-arguments pointing out apparent discrepancies between some Book of Mormon details and the Delmarva geography.
Physics Guy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:40 amThe earlier Delmarva discussions seem to have been from faithful Mormons looking for a perfect fit with the entire Book of Mormon text. Shulem, in contrast, is just trying to identify a model used by Smith, perhaps only roughly. For a faithful Mormon, even a single verse might demolish the Delmarva theory. Shulem’s theory, however, would even expect a few discrepancies, if Smith was careless or tried to disguise his source.
Gardner wrote:What to do about Shulem over at Discuss Mormonism? He's destroying the Book of Mormon. Shirts is even following him now. And Peterson won't answer the phone.
And it came to pass that Hagoth, he being an exceedingly curious man, therefore he went forth and built him an exceedingly large ship, on the borders of the land Bountiful, by the land Desolation, and launched it forth into the west sea, by the narrow neck which led into the land northward.
So, the area described is surrounded by water, save the small neck of land which Shulem details in earlier posts. There is literally no geographic region in the Americas that matches the description, save the delmarva peninsula. If Joseph Smith was plagiarizing the Late War (shout out to Dan Peterson), there simply isn’t any other explanation for this description to be included in the Book of Mormon. In poker, this is a tell. Joseph Smith gives his hand away, his plagiarism of the Late War by including these relatively unnecessary literary details.And thus the land of Nephi and the land of Zarahemla were nearly surrounded by water there being a SMALL NECK OF LAND between the land northward and the land southward.