DCP's ongoing problem with plagiarism

[_Lemmie]

I think he is referring to the 2017 one, which DCP reposted in 2019. The content there was never modified, and has now been taken down, although the title remains. See first post of p. 16.

Pretty amazing thread, Lemmie. Just noticed that it is still running on the order of 100 page views per post.

If DCP's main objective in life is public attention (and many here believe it is), it's no wonder that he is posting "Thank You" notes to you, by name, on SeN.

Well done.

ouch. That has never been my intention, but, yes, as DCP has continued to post, RE-post, and in a few cases triple-post the same plagiarized entries, I have gradually and reluctantly come to the conclusion that there is a non-negligible element of attention-seeking going on. It is not possible that this continues to happen "accidentally." I have documented half a dozen additional cases of plagiarism that I haven't yet had time to post, and I've noticed that there is at least one more entry he has re-posted, without citations, that I have already documented as plagiarism. How hungry for attention do you have to be, to settle for the attention brought by having your plagiarism habit exposed?

[_Physics Guy]

I think he is referring to the 2017 one, which DCP reposted in 2019. The content there was never modified, and has now been taken down, although the title remains.

Yep. This time you got through. And Peterson seems to have conceded with a measure of class.

[_Dr Exiled]

ouch. That has never been my intention, but, yes, as DCP has continued to post, RE-post, and in a few cases triple-post the same plagiarized entries, I have gradually and reluctantly come to the conclusion that there is a non-negligible element of attention-seeking going on. It is not possible that this continues to happen "accidentally." I have documented half a dozen additional cases of plagiarism that I haven't yet had time to post, and I've noticed that there is at least one more entry he has re-posted, without citations, that I have already documented as plagiarism. How hungry for attention do you have to be, to settle for the attention brought by having your plagiarism habit exposed?

BINGO! Dr. P must crave the spotlight, even a negative one.

[_malkie]

Russel you make yourself look like a damn fool. Lemmie is no more Nyal than I was someone else years ago. If this place is so much of a sty then why do you keep your account open or was that not you checking private messages here a week or so ago? MormonDiscussions.com is good enough for you to slither and slunk behind the scenes but not good enough for you to Pump your sludge openly? No, you prefer to participate from afar or behind the scenes like the base coward that you are. You guys have been doing this adolescent ____ for decades. Are you so lacking creatively that you can’t come up with a new shtick? This tired old ____ is the best you can come up with? Apparently so.

Tired old ____ from tired old men.

My best to you,
Dog with a bone
;-)

Remember that "Scratch is ChinoBlanco" fiasco from a few years back?

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/126xfs/poor_daniel_peterson_if_chino_blanco_doesnt_stop/

[_Jersey Girl]

Remember that "Scratch is ChinoBlanco" fiasco from a few years back?

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/126xfs/poor_daniel_peterson_if_chino_blanco_doesnt_stop/

Hi Malkie! Yes, of course I remember.

[Guest]

Seems to be endemic at BYU

https://truthandtransparency.org/news/2 ... ake-action

[_I have a question]

Seems to be endemic at by

https://truthandtransparency.org/news/2 ... ake-action

Multiple sources with knowledge of the situation claimed that both the present investigation into Gaskill and the 1998 investigation into Van Orden were delegated to Alex Baugh, the current Chair of the Church History and Doctrine department. They alleged that Baugh has neglected the current investigation and that an investigation is essentially non-existent.

Baugh was contacted in effort corroborate these claims, but did not return the request for comment. However, Carri Jenkins, spokeswoman for BYU, stated “We take these matters very seriously and are conducting a thorough review.”

It is unknown how much time is needed to conduct and conclude such an investigation. Each opinion given to the TTF varied. Ms. Jenkins was asked when the review could be expected to conclude and action taken. This article will be updated should she respond.

At BYU, plagiarism by Professors is tolerated. You are more likely to get ejected from BYU for being raped or growing a beard than if you plagiarise something, it seems.

Defense of a Forgery

In addition to this plagiarism, in 2014 Gaskill published The Lost Teachings of Jesus on the Sacred Place of Women, a book heavily based on Nicolas Notovitch’s 1894 book, The Unknown Life of Jesus Christ. Notovitch’s book is known among scholars as a forgery, but Gaskill fails to explicitly recognize this claim.

After public criticism, Gaskill addressed the concern, in which he blamed the oversight on the “reviewers” of his original manuscript who encouraged him to remove his original “[discussion of the] controversy surrounding the text.” Despite criticism, the claims were never retracted and the book remains in publication.

At the time, Gaskill held the position of Associate Professor, but has since been promoted in Full Professor. Nearly all the junior faculty members do not come from backgrounds in CES, whereas nine of the 11 senior professors do.

[_Kishkumen]

Holy smokes! That Gaskill business is unbelievable! What a travesty!

1. His PhD comes from an unaccredited Protestant seminary.

2. He allegedly plagiarized in his 2011 book on gospel symbolism.

3. He allegedly plagiarized in his 2013 book on Jesus and women.

4. He was promoted to full professor.

5. BYU has done what about this?

When I think that David Bokovoy, PhD Brandeis University, was turned down for employment by the same institution that employs this character, I have to say that this does not look good for BYU.

Loyalty and bogus boosterism over education and integrity, evidently.

If he went to Trinity College and Theological Seminary, this is on their web page:

We are not affiliated (accredited) with any regional or national accrediting agency and have operated, successfully, as a school of ministry for over 45 years with students graduating and serving in a variety of areas including teaching, preaching, missions, and counseling. Trinity clearly understands the purpose of accreditation. However, as noted by the US Department of Education, and all US DOE recognized accreditors, accreditation is a voluntary process.

See https://trinitysem.edu/about-trinity/accreditation/

The publisher of many of his books is Cedar Fort, in Springville, a decidedly non-academic publisher.

See http://www.cedarfort.com

Cedar Fort released a “deluxe” edition of his gospel symbols book last year. Yikes.

[_Dr Exiled]

Perhaps this is a cultural problem within the Mormon church? Lying for the lord and plagiarism have origins back to Joseph Smith. Joseph Smith's Bible "translation" was lifted from Clark, he made up the Book of Mormon using the Bible, made up the d&c revelations, the obvious book of abraham invention is part of this, his deception and lying regarding polygamy play a part, and on and on. Mormons were taught to lie regarding polygamy in the late 1800's when the feds were after the church leaders. Further, we saw how Dunn lied and other G.A.'s have been caught exaggerating their stories recently. So, is it any wonder that DCP plagiarizes as long as the ends justify it? The above BYU professor is just following a Mormon tradition?

[_SteelHead]

Given that one of the prevailing theories is that the Book of Mormon is plagiarized, and given that the Joseph Smith version of the Bible was plagiarized (that study last year pointed this out) I would propose that Mormons are quite comfortable with plagiarism.