Rules of Patheos: Midgley appears to violate TOS 10x

[Guest]

This was from the thread that was written in response to Philo's thread about the former female editor for "Interpreter":

I was aware that my wife had a book that had every expenditure itemized for each month for each year for a decade. With warnings about items that had to be dealt with by certain dates, and where information of household items was filed. I managed to keep this up for two months after she passed away. And then I simply gave up. I have managed to survive for six years without immediate adult supervision. Well, I have had constant assistance from my daughter, and also from those who have taken pity on me in my Ward. So I have still been able to focus on the really important issues.

There are at least two ways to interpret this. This first is that he is sort of joking--"Ha, ha, ha! I have been able to live this life of frivolity because my long-suffering wife took care of the nuts-and-bolts, day-to-day details that help keep my life running!" But this would mean that he views his own career and Mopologetics as a kind of "indulgence": this isn't "real work," it's just screwing around because you find it amusing.

The other interpretation is that Midgley is serious, and actually thinks that his wife, daughter, and ward members should handle his bookkeeping for him so he can do Mopologetics, and opine up a storm on Dan's blog, because that actually and legitimately constitutes "important" work.

[_Gadianton]

Professor Scratch,

While conducting a tour of the university the other day, I came across a thread of yore. It's a thread that like a select Kentucky Bourbon, few of tamed passion will appreciate. For this reason, I'm embarrassed to devote an entire topic to my discovery, and so I present my findings to you within this little corner of our world, which is also a relevant spot for matters that intersect with the antics of a (non) intellectual historian who calls himself Mr. Midgley.

I made a point in that thread all those years ago to the present proprietor of right-wing pseudoscience blog Sic et Non. I wrote:

As apologists tend to do, you've turned this thread into a battle over who has more culture than who

I was responded to thus:

LOL. That's precisely what several Scratchite threads here have sought to do, yet I've never seen John Clark or Jack Welch or Bill Hamblin or Lou Midgley or Shirley Ricks or John Sorenson or Hugh Nibley do anything of the kind.

Do you think that now, given that we've seen Lou Midgley devote at least half his time on Sic et Non bragging about how well-traveled, studied, learned, cultured, socialized, and "charmed" he is in comparison to Gemli, that I can ask the present proprietor of SeN for a retraction?

I'll admit, I'm feeling mildly celebratory, having seen the truth of his own favored companions better than he himself ever did, having known them for decades, whereas I had a few words here and there on the Internet to go by.

[_Dr Exiled]

:rolleyes:

Louis Midgley >> gemli
2 hours ago

But what gemli does toss around constantly is blank ignorance about, coupled with a total lack of interest in the faith of those he mocks, ridicules and constantly belittles. He is like a naughty little kid craves attention and who had somehow figured out how to constantly pass truly disgusting gas that generates attention. gemli seems to have a desperate need for some social interaction, even when it is negative, with other human beings.

When I first got to university, there were those who explained such behavior on poor early toilet training. I don't know what the explanation actually is. This is why I have wondered if gemli is married and has children, or friends. And uses posting comments on blogs as a way of having an exchange with other human beings. Recently he told us that he has been given the boot by an atheist blog. So it appears that even atheists had too much of a bad thing.

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/danp ... 4604018330

THAT’S why midgley wonders if gemli has children, friends, or a spouse? Because of his own truly unfortunate fixation on bizarre inclusions of toilet topics into conversations??

Gemli takes it in stride:

gemli >> Louis Midgley
30 minutes ago

You certainly have a way with words. They conjure up vivid images and have a nice rhythm. Have you ever thought of writing children's books?

Dr. Midge projects again.

Dr. Midge, please consider that it might be you. You are the one who lashes out because Mormonism is indefensible. It is so painfully obvious to all who read your comments at sic et non.

[_moksha]

I'll admit, I'm feeling mildly celebratory, having seen the truth of his own favored companions better than he himself ever did, having known them for decades, whereas I had a few words here and there on the Internet to go by.

Was Dr. Midgley's mean streak readily apparent when Dr. Peterson defended him or is it a subsequent artifact of old age?

I suppose the case could be made that this meanness is what drove his dagger to the back approach in reviewing Grant Palmer's book, but is this fury at Gemli something new?

[_Gadianton]

Penguin,

The fury at Gemli is most definitely not anything new, however, the media available for full range of expression and endorsement from colleagues is relatively new. "fury" isn't quite the subject of discussion here. We were assured, years ago, that Lou Midgley would be too busy to interact with us (I'm not sure we ever requested he interact with us, but the proprietor is always a step ahead of the game) because he was lost among the theaters of London.

Then, we were told point blank, that Midgley would never battle over "who has more culture than who". That the proprietor would use Midgley in his war of culture doesn't necessarily mean that Midgley would. What was missing was evidence from the source itself, which we've been blessed with in spades.

The #1 apologist argument of all time goes something like this:

- critics dismiss the Book of Mormon by evidence x, y, and z.

- But apologists have higher degrees than critics, travel more frequently, and enjoy more plays.

- since apologists have better culture than critics, their evidence against the Book of Mormon can be dismissed.

- the Book of Mormon is true.

[_Lemmie]

This was from the thread that was written in response to Philo's thread about the former female editor for "Interpreter":

I was aware that my wife had a book that had every expenditure itemized for each month for each year for a decade. With warnings about items that had to be dealt with by certain dates, and where information of household items was filed. I managed to keep this up for two months after she passed away. And then I simply gave up. I have managed to survive for six years without immediate adult supervision. Well, I have had constant assistance from my daughter, and also from those who have taken pity on me in my Ward. So I have still been able to focus on the really important issues.

There are at least two ways to interpret this. This first is that he is sort of joking--"Ha, ha, ha! I have been able to live this life of frivolity because my long-suffering wife took care of the nuts-and-bolts, day-to-day details that help keep my life running!" But this would mean that he views his own career and Mopologetics as a kind of "indulgence": this is "real work," it's just screwing around because you find it amusing.

The other interpretation is that Midgley is serious, and actually thinks that his wife, daughter, and ward members should handle his bookkeeping for him so he can do Mopologetics, and opine up a storm on Dan's blog, because that actually and legitimately constitutes "important" work.

Sadly, another interpretation is that midgley is aware that the female in his relationship handled all the unimportant but necessary issues of life, so that he, the male, could rightly focus on the important issues in life. It’s a position that degrades women, and it’s not the first time midgley’s mentioned it. I remember once reading with great horror where midgley mentioned how much he missed his wife, and how he looked forward to seeing her in heaven so he could thank her again —for running his household for him.

I’m sure he thinks of his daughter and the (surely female) members of his ward who provide his “adult supervision” now in the same way. It’s despicable.

[_moksha]

I'm glad Dr. Midgley is getting some help around the house so he can live on his own as long as possible. Ward members helping with snow shoveling, lawn mowing, telling him to zip his pants, etc... are all a big help.

[_Gadianton]

I'm glad Dr. Midgley is getting some help around the house so he can live on his own as long as possible. Ward members helping with snow shoveling, lawn mowing, telling him to zip his pants, etc... are all a big help.

Surely the ward members will be blessed. "Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

[_Philo Sofee]

Gad and Lemmie......

You are sincerely two of my all time favorite posters to read. Of course, there are literally dozens here. Now don't let that go to yer fat heads either...
And Penguin? You truly, literally, and totally are one of a kind. It is our honor to have celestially intelligent penguins in our midst. May you live long and prosper, and post!

[_Tom]

This was from the thread that was written in response to Philo's thread about the former female editor for "Interpreter":

I was aware that my wife had a book that had every expenditure itemized for each month for each year for a decade. With warnings about items that had to be dealt with by certain dates, and where information of household items was filed. I managed to keep this up for two months after she passed away. And then I simply gave up. I have managed to survive for six years without immediate adult supervision. Well, I have had constant assistance from my daughter, and also from those who have taken pity on me in my Ward. So I have still been able to focus on the really important issues.

There are at least two ways to interpret this. This first is that he is sort of joking--"Ha, ha, ha! I have been able to live this life of frivolity because my long-suffering wife took care of the nuts-and-bolts, day-to-day details that help keep my life running!" But this would mean that he views his own career and Mopologetics as a kind of "indulgence": this is "real work," it's just screwing around because you find it amusing.

The other interpretation is that Midgley is serious, and actually thinks that his wife, daughter, and ward members should handle his bookkeeping for him so he can do Mopologetics, and opine up a storm on Dan's blog, because that actually and legitimately constitutes "important" work.

That’s Dr. Midgley’s response to a long post by his close friend attempting in vain to justify the sad and embarrassing fact that the Interpreter Foundation has almost no women among its leadership (23 men and 0 women currently serve on the board of trustees, board of advisors, and board of editors) and writers? Mind you, Dr. Midgley serves on the board of advisors. Is he also a member of the Foundation’s diversity committee?

I must note Dr. Peterson’s response to someone who complained about the bold hot pink text used by Dr. Peterson to respond to a video from Brigitte Gabriel, a critic of Islam: “I was trying to go with Ms. Gabriel’s outfit.” You can’t make this stuff up.