Runtu wrote:It's obvious that you had unconsciously picked up this speech pattern through your scripture study. :)
Ha ha! I remember feeling second hand embarrassment when reading Book of Mormon passages. The run on sentences, the kooky names, etc. Yes, I guess you could say I found the "morepart" of the book awkward at best.
I don't expect to see same-sex marriage in Utah within my lifetime. - Scott Lloyd, Oct 23 2013
Kevin Graham wrote:I remember one of our district leaders on my mission made the comment that Joseph Smith was such a genius that he came up with new words that others started using. His primary example was "inasmuch".
Inasmuch as Joe was a renown wordsmith and phraseologist, I'm surprised he wasn't given credit for "itcametopass".
Or "Woe be unto you"
Dr CamNC4Me
"Dr. Peterson and his Callithumpian cabal of BYU idiots have been marginalized by their own inevitable irrelevancy defending a fraud."
Runtu wrote:It does do some damage to some "old chestnuts."
Chiamus? Check "And it came to pass"? Check Cognate accusative? Check
This could get interesting.
Not to mention the horrifying embarrassment that the most sacred relic of Mormonism, the Liahona, was patterned after a 19th century invention used for "dynamite fishing".
I have not heard this one before. Where did you find this gem?! I would very much like to look into this one.
Dr CamNC4Me
"Dr. Peterson and his Callithumpian cabal of BYU idiots have been marginalized by their own inevitable irrelevancy defending a fraud."
Juggler Vain wrote:Here is some phrasing shared by LATE WAR and The Book of Mormon which (on a cursory search) is not used in the KJV Old or New Testaments:
LATE WAR, XI:17, Pg. 40
17 And the army of Columbia went into winter quarters ; for the earth was covered with snow, and the waters of the great lakes, on the borders of which they had pitched their tents, were congealed.
Book of Mormon, Alma 51:32
32 And it came to pass that they did harass them, insomuch that they did slay them even until it was dark. And it came to pass that Teancum and his men did pitch their tents in the borders of the land Bountiful; and Amalickiah did pitch his tents in the borders on the beach by the seashore, and after this manner were they driven.
People in the KJV Bible definitely pitched tents in, at, by, beside and between places, but they don't seem to be described as having done so "on the borders" or "in the borders" of places. Maybe that's a 19th century thing, or a non-KJV thing?
-JV
YES! I was noting this last night as well in browsing the book. Again, I think I agree with others here who have advocated not necessarily a plagiarism as such, but with all the tidbits, as it were, one can use and intersperse it into a narrative at any point to make it sound more natural.
Dr CamNC4Me
"Dr. Peterson and his Callithumpian cabal of BYU idiots have been marginalized by their own inevitable irrelevancy defending a fraud."
Juggler Vain wrote:More phrases in LATE WAR that are familiar to Book of Mormon readers:
LATE WAR, LIV:13, Pg. 217
13 And Jackson spake, and said unto his captains of fifties, and his captains of hundreds, Fear not; we defend our lives and our liberty, and in that thing the Lord will not forsake us.
Book of Mormon, Mosiah 23:36:
36 And it came to pass that the Lamanites promised unto Alma and his brethren, that if they would show them the away which led to the land of Nephi that they would grant unto them their lives and their liberty.
-JV
Nice catch!
Dr CamNC4Me
"Dr. Peterson and his Callithumpian cabal of BYU idiots have been marginalized by their own inevitable irrelevancy defending a fraud."
Doctor Scratch wrote:You can't really look to BCSpace...
BCSpace may not want to defend the Church anymore, he might leave and start a better one based on this book. Check this out:
Las Vegas 26 wrote:And the mighty kings and potentates of the earth shall learn, from this example of Republican patriotism, that the PEOPLE are the only "legitimate sovereigns" of the land of Columbia
Now it's official doctrine that the Republican Party is God's party.
I'm going to quote this!
Dr CamNC4Me
"Dr. Peterson and his Callithumpian cabal of BYU idiots have been marginalized by their own inevitable irrelevancy defending a fraud."
Lol all of DCP's countless hours work in cognate accusative apologetics destroyed with one single discovery by the Johnson brothers. Peterson has got to be pissed...
"...The official doctrine of the LDS Church is a Global Flood" - BCSpace
"...What many people call sin is not sin." - Joseph Smith
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away" - Phillip K. Dick
“The meaning of life is that it ends" - Franz Kafka
Reverend Kishkumen wrote:Just as the Book of Mormon account of the Liahona describes the machinery of this device as a compass and having "were two spindles", the torpedoes in Hunt, made partly of brass and partly of iron, were contrived with curious works, "like unto a clock; and as it were a large ball."
Book of Mormon wrote:10 And it came to pass that as my father arose in the morning, and went forth to the tent door, to his great astonishment he beheld upon the ground a round ball of curious workmanship; and it was of fine brass. And within the ball were two spindles; and the one pointed the way whither we should go into the wilderness.
Late War wrote:Now these wonderful torpedoes were made partly of brass and partly of iron, and were cunningly contrived with curious works, like unto a clock; and as it were a large ball.
I studied a little on the history of the torpedo this morning. This was a predecessor, more like a grenade (though much bigger), but where the word originated. I found a picture but it was very small, and part of a JSTOR article.
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Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
Reverend Kishkumen wrote:Just as the Book of Mormon account of the Liahona describes the machinery of this device as a compass and having "were two spindles", the torpedoes in Hunt, made partly of brass and partly of iron, were contrived with curious works, "like unto a clock; and as it were a large ball."
Book of Mormon wrote:10 And it came to pass that as my father arose in the morning, and went forth to the tent door, to his great astonishment he beheld upon the ground a round ball of curious workmanship; and it was of fine brass. And within the ball were two spindles; and the one pointed the way whither we should go into the wilderness.
Late War wrote:Now these wonderful torpedoes were made partly of brass and partly of iron, and were cunningly contrived with curious works, like unto a clock; and as it were a large ball.
OH MY HELL!!!!! I am going to have to go all the way back through these fabulous pages and re-read everything. Is someone compiling all these themes together yet? I am willing to join the Cassius University student enrollment.
Dr CamNC4Me
"Dr. Peterson and his Callithumpian cabal of BYU idiots have been marginalized by their own inevitable irrelevancy defending a fraud."
