I am considering going back to church

Post by **_Jersey Girl** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:01 am

Seven

I came really close to attending an EV church nearby but chickened out. I have never been to another church before, so it's a little scary.

Can you tell me what denomination the nearby church is? I might be able to describe a service to you to make it less "scary" should you choose to investigate.

Post by **_Polygamy Porter** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:04 am

Jersey Girl wrote:Seven
I came really close to attending an EV church nearby but chickened out. I have never been to another church before, so it's a little scary.

Can you tell me what denomination the nearby church is? I might be able to describe a service to you to make it less "scary" should you choose to investigate.

?

I thought all EV's jumped up and down, talked in tongues, did healings with oily hands, sang loudly with a band to crappy Jesus rock music, and layed on the floor while convulsing?

_Yoda · Post by **_Yoda** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:54 pm

Polygamy Porter wrote:Liz,

May I ask at what age you would allow any of your children to stop attending Mormon church services?

I don't know that I would really put an age on it. My daughters are teen-agers. Actually, my oldest is 18, so as an adult, she can obviously make those choices for herself.

If either of them came to me and said, "Mom, I really don't believe in it. I don't want to go anymore. This just isn't for me." I would not force them to attend Church. Their values are what is important to me. If they're treating people with respect....not getting into drugs or premarital sex...keeping their grades up....planning on pursuing their education.....

These are the core values that are important to me, and will be important to them to function well in society.

Now...we have an unusual situation because I have two teen-aged daughters, and a son who is 3. The 3 year old obviously attends Church with us.

Every child matures at a different rate developmentally, so the question of age is difficult to factor in. It would be different for each individual child.

Post by **_Polygamy Porter** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:46 pm

An 18 year old YW.... oh boy.. we can only hope she does not get coerced into fulfilling her what she has been taught to be her eternal destiny.... married before she is 20 to some zealous horny RM....

_Yoda · Post by **_Yoda** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:14 pm

Polygamy Porter wrote:An 18 year old YW.... oh boy.. we can only hope she does not get coerced into fulfilling her what she has been taught to be her eternal destiny.... married before she is 20 to some zealous horny RM....

She's attending Utah State University this Fall on a Theater scholarship. Her plans are to complete her undergraduate work in Theater with a minor in Political Science and then attend Law School. This summer she worked as an intern at her uncle's law firm.

No inherent marriage plans in sight.

I honestly don't know why you keep trying to stereotype my family. If you read my prior posts, the daughter who graduated is the same daughter who was an active member of GSA.

I can see that you are not really interested in having an adult conversation, and are simply trying to throw pot-shots my way.

Until you are adult enough to apologize for your rudeness, I will no longer converse with you or answer your questions.

Edited to add---PP, let me make this clear. I am not asking you to apologize for your views, or for your opinions regarding the Church. I respect our differences there. I simply wish that you would respect my viewpoint as well. You don't have to agree with me, but there is certainly no cause for the type of behavior you have distributed toward me as of late.

Post by **_Dr. Shades** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:42 pm

Seven wrote:We have future baptisms ahead, I am about to have a baby who will be blessed, my kids remain active, most of my family are TBMs........I feel as if there is no way out of this but to go back and be a part of raising our children with him in this culture.

Of course there is a way out. Instead of trying to match him, get him to match you. Simply share with him the information you have discovered.

It's a big mess when one spouse remains TBM. I have wondered what would happen if my DH chose to leave the church and I know his family will blame me. I will be one of Satan's minions who led him astray. I don't see a good outcome either way with TBM family.

Considering everything you've told us about them--how they cast aspersions on you, make the most negative assumptions possible about you, intimate that your husband should divorce you--it's more than clear that these people are not your friends. They are your enemies. To Hell with those people.

It's such a tough situation when those you love dearly don't care about polygamy, racism, misleading teachings in church, or Prophets speaking as men in the name of God.

Looks like you haven't found your husband's "trigger" yet. Order By His Own Hand Upon Papyrus for him; he'll come around. For some reason, that book works on males much better than the other issues you mentioned.

Good luck!

Post by **_Gazelam** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:04 pm

Looks like you haven't found your husband's "trigger" yet. Order By His Own Hand Upon Papyrus for him; he'll come around. For some reason, that book works on males much better than the other issues you mentioned.

Try reading Abraham in Egypt by Hugh Nibley first. You can even check it out online.

http://maxwellinstitute.BYU.edu/publications/booksmain.php?bookid=48

Post by **_Bond...James Bond** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:11 pm

liz3564 wrote:No inherent marriage plans in sight.

Is she into parody writing critics of Mormonism who enjoy soccer and long walks anywhere except the beach? :-P

Post by **_Bond...James Bond** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:57 pm

Seven,

I'm probably dumb for asking this....but how long have you not been attending LDS services?

Post by **_Sam Harris** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:24 am

liz3564 wrote:
Polygamy Porter wrote:An 18 year old YW.... oh boy.. we can only hope she does not get coerced into fulfilling her what she has been taught to be her eternal destiny.... married before she is 20 to some zealous horny RM....

She's attending Utah State University this Fall on a Theater scholarship. Her plans are to complete her undergraduate work in Theater with a minor in Political Science and then attend Law School. This summer she worked as an intern at her uncle's law firm.

No inherent marriage plans in sight.

I honestly don't know why you keep trying to stereotype my family. If you read my prior posts, the daughter who graduated is the same daughter who was an active member of GSA.

I can see that you are not really interested in having an adult conversation, and are simply trying to throw pot-shots my way.

Until you are adult enough to apologize for your rudeness, I will no longer converse with you or answer your questions.

Edited to add---PP, let me make this clear. I am not asking you to apologize for your views, or for your opinions regarding the Church. I respect our differences there. I simply wish that you would respect my viewpoint as well. You don't have to agree with me, but there is certainly no cause for the type of behavior you have distributed toward me as of late.

Neither PP nor his buddy Merc can separate their views with the church from individual Mormons. They're one and the same to them, though if an individual person who has religious belief does anything other than be a target, all of a sudden it's a travesty.

Liz, you handled yourself with class.