It is not my fault that Kevin took the scenario, applied it to himself, recognized himself in it and then accused me of lying about him because the circumstance didn't fit him. Why am the only person who can see how inconsistent that is?
I think that the connection was obvious and was your fault. How do you explain the moniker Voldemort? You know that was in reference to Kevin. Did you do anything to correct any reference to Kevin?
All we have is a name given to Runtu. And he is an honest choice. But I feel you have set him up and us up. It shows nothing. I still see that whole communication as being between you and Pacman about Kevin unless you show more.
Are you and Mr. Scratch the same person? He is evidenlty under the same misconcpetion as exhibited here.
There are 2 different events. The first is the thread where I used the term "handed his head in a basket." That was in reference to someone NOT Kevin.
The second is the thread on MA&D where I read a comment by pacman who said he was not sure of Kevin's church status. That was all I was responding to. So I pm'ed pacman with Kevin's own words. Then pacman posted on MA&D, with his own added comments, and certain people here lit up like rockets.
I can't help what you want to think. The facts are out there. Two events. Not connected.
I have, as asbestosman said, "chided" pacman on using my comments in a way I did not use them myself. I am not responsible for his comments. I have tried many, many times to explain to Kevin I was not referring to him. He won't accept that. I gave runtu the opportunity to refuse to accept the responsiblity, because I thought it might bring some condemnation down on his head. And it seems I was right about that. But he accepted the responsiblity and I respect him honoring the trust I placed in him.
I don't see what more I can do. Except bow to Kevin's bullying and post the name on the board. I won't do that.
Scratch and I are not the same, but I consider that a complement though.
Concerning Voldemort,
Are you serious?! Somehow, that's not much of a disgusting surprise. Disgusting yes...surprise, no. I find it terribly interesting that his 'revelation' came after Brent mopped the floor with him. Typical apostate...tie everything to pride, and great is the fall thereof.
That's the first paragraph. Please try follow me. "Concerning Voldemort (Kevin)..... Brent mopped the floor with him." How is this so different than "handed his head in a basket."
And you think this is so clear and that there is a lot of difference in the two threads?????.
Maybe you need to reread everything, start over, come clean, get honest and quit the gossip. You know what they say about the "L" word, if you stay with the truth you can keep it all straight and remember who you told what.
I think it would be morally right to lie about your religion to edit the article favorably. bcspace
So charity gets away with this kind of unverifiable evidence. Nice.
This is like me saying I know a General Authority who thinks believes Adam is our God. I go to MAD and tell the world. When they ask for a name, I tell them I can't say. That would be low of me. But rumor-mongering like this is perfectly fine, apparently. At least according to MAD standards. FAIR, its cyberspace as well as its conferences, have always been a hotbed for gossip and rumor.
But their standards are not consistent when it comes to critics.
I remember when I first posted at MAD as dartagnan, I said I had recently been in contact with a few sociology professors (two of whom Juliann had been using in her rants). One of these turned out to be her own professor.
All I said was that he did not appreciate how some people have used their work to attack dissidents of NRMs. Juliann went completely ballistic. She got the moderators to threaten me with removing my account unless I provided the emails for them to read. No kidding. My private emails! The MAD moderators (Juliann included) felt they had all rights to my personal inbox, just because I said I had been in contact with someone Juliann knew.
Paranoia anyone?
“All knowledge of reality starts from experience and ends in it...Propositions arrived at by purely logical means are completely empty as regards reality." - Albert Einstein
dartagnan wrote:So charity gets away with this kind of unverifiable evidence. Nice.
Gets away with it? How? Like I or many other people here are buying what she's selling!
I don't think so.
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
dartagnan wrote:So charity gets away with this kind of unverifiable evidence. Nice.
This is like me saying I know a General Authority who thinks believes Adam is our God. I go to MAD and tell the world. When they ask for a name, I tell them I can't say. That would be low of me. But rumor-mongering like this is perfectly fine, apparently. At least according to MAD standards. FAIR, its cyberspace as well as its conferences, have always been a hotbed for gossip and rumor.
But their standards are not consistent when it comes to critics.
I remember when I first posted at MAD as dartagnan, I said I had recently been in contact with a few sociology professors (two of whom Juliann had been using in her rants). One of these turned out to be her own professor.
All I said was that he did not appreciate how some people have used their work to attack dissidents of NRMs. Juliann went completely ballistic. She got the moderators to threaten me with removing my account unless I provided the emails for them to read. No kidding. My private emails! The MAD moderators (Juliann included) felt they had all rights to my personal inbox, just because I said I had been in contact with someone Juliann knew.
Paranoia anyone?
I remember that well. They accused you of distorting what Juliann had said (even though you didn't even mention Juliann) in order to get distorted condemnations from the scholars. That was a particularly shameful (though unintentionally hilarious) episode.
Sorry, Kevin, for having agreed to anything with charity.
Runtu wrote:Sorry, Kevin, for having agreed to anything with charity.
Out, damn spot!
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
Charity herself said that she was disguisted with some things she heard on another message board about that unnamed apologist. She referred to the original tale bearers as little "grinches". I don't think it's fair to paint her as hypocritical on this point. If there is any inconsistancy on her stance, it might be with what Zoidberg wrote concerning unflattering remarks past prophets may or may not have said (I mean, did Joseph say that the Kinderhook plates were written by Zelph or not?).
That's General Leo. He could be my friend if he weren't my enemy. eritis sicut dii I support NCMO
Gets away with it? How? Like I or many other people here are buying what she's selling!
Well, I woke up this morning and read runtu's message that said he had "definitive proof" that charity couldn't have been referring to me.
I think he overstated the evidence, but charity seems to think she has "shown" this to be true.
And by the way Runtu, aren't I supposed to "turn" on you because of this?
“All knowledge of reality starts from experience and ends in it...Propositions arrived at by purely logical means are completely empty as regards reality." - Albert Einstein
Charity herself said that she was disguisted with some things she heard on another message board about that unnamed apologist. She referred to the original tale bearers as little "grinches". I don't think it's fair to paint her as hypocritical on this point.
Why not? You seem to have overlooked the fact that charity said the following about this person:
“I heard was that someone got his head handed to him in a basket when he was caught unprepared, got his pride whomped, and then wanted to blame his bruised ego on the Church, the general authorities, and every TBM who wouldn't lick his wounds to make him feel better.”
If charity really condemned this kind of rumor-mongering, she has an odd way of showing it.
“All knowledge of reality starts from experience and ends in it...Propositions arrived at by purely logical means are completely empty as regards reality." - Albert Einstein