Weird (stupid) Sealing Policies

[_charity]

Lunch is over. The leftovers are put away and the dishwasher is going


Tidejwe: The answer to your question is based on several general ruels.

1. Everyone has his/her agency. Nobody is forced to be sealed to someone they don't want to be sealed to.
2. There are some situations which are so complicated that the simple rule won't cover them. This is what got theJews in such trouble with all the "but what if this" scenarios and a rule that applied to each, and pretty soon, the number of rules and law was prohibitive.
3. We have the millenium to sort out those few really complicated situations.
4. If we are true and faithful, the promised blessings will be ours. That is called trusting in the Lord.

Most of the people here have spent a lifetime, close to a lifetime, or decades as active members of the Mormon Church.
There's absolutely no reason I can think of to assume, ex ante, that they know the Church, its doctrines, its cultural attributes, etc. any less on average than the apologists on the MA&D board.

And you have rejected the Church, its doctrines, etc. Am I going to a Ford dealership and ask them about a Honda?

What constitutes mocking? Is it, for example, mocking to call an idiotic doctrine "idiotic" or to call an adulterous liar an "adulterous liar?"

Not if you are correct. If you are wrong, you are in big trouble.

[_charity]

We bother because it's a good example of the retardation of the belief system. It's stupid, Charity, and you believe it with all your heart, don't you? You kind of have to, really, because Prophets, Seers, and Revelators handed it down to you.

But from my point of view it's all just a mind game for those who choose to play it, and utterly irrelevant in any real sense. Nobody's going to be anybody's child in eternity. We'll die, return to the dust from whence we came, and after two or three generations will be all but forgotten by the living. Even the most famous (infamous) of us won't live on in the memories of those who survive of our species past maybe a thousand years or two. Given the state of the world today, I rather doubt a human being will be around to remember any of us within a hundred years.

I was an adult when I investigated the Church. I studied and made a reasoned decision. I am sorry you have not faith. I will be glad to meet you on the other side and we can rejoice together.

[_Coggins7]

LOL! No, they can give the standard answers and not get sanctioned. Charity, your (not so subtle) arrogance never ceases to amaze me. You should know that when an answer is given there that is contradictory to the "acceptable" answers, the person is sanctioned and/or banned. So to you, that means that the allowed answers are the correct ones?

Whatever.

You've already established yourself here as a very poor arbiter of who knows what they are talking about regarding serious doctrinal questions Bish.

So keep up the pose for as long as you get whatever payoff you get for posting here and attacking the Restored Gospel.

[_charity]

And you can find much better answers for such questions on the MA&D board because they actually know the answers.

MADB is a fount of disinformation. I wouldn't consider it any more reliable as a source for answers. For that matter, walking into any local LDS ward and asking straightforward questions can result in a plethora of answers, many of which will be incorrect.

That could be true. That's why you find the knowledgable people and ask them. That's like telling someone that if you ask the person on the street a question about the Constitution of the United States, you are probably going to get some wrong answers. So you go to a teacher of American History and Govenrment. This is not hard, road to hana!

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MADB operates primarily as a spin zone.

Wrong.

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Frankly, Charity, in a church that has little to no official doctrine, it's pretty hard for anyone to come up with official answers.

Wrong again. I'm glad you didn't make another comment or you wil be out on three strikes. I guess you just don't know official doctrine when you see it.

[_Coggins7]

Sorry, Charity, but I take issue with this. The majority of posters here are not here to mock and ridicule the Church.

As someone who was a regular at ZLMB for a number of years, and has been here since the beginning, I can with unambiguous certainty say that the above statement is patently false. Most are here to do precisely that. Some are here to explore their doubts, but most are here to stir the pot, bash, impugn, and mock.

And so it shall ever be, with this particular demographic.

[_charity]

And you can find much better answers for such questions on the MA&D board because they actually know the answers.

Is this the ol' "don't go to a Ford dealer to get information on a Chevy" adage? Cause, yeah, the Chevy dealer is certainly going to tell you 100% of the truth, flaws and all of the Chevy, isn't he??

Yes, it is. Because the Chey dealer knows his product. The Ford dealer knows his. So when the Ford dealer doesn't know any answer, he gives the answer he thinks works. And passes along a lot of disinformation. Elementary, Watson.

[_charity]

I hope tidejwe, as a fully active member, will not mock sacred things.

While the sealing power itself may be sacred, the man-made policies associated with it are not in my opinion. However, I will try to be more respectful in the future for the sake of some who easily take offense because of their alternate interpretations of holding man's decisions as sacred.

I agree that there many be mad-made policies associated with the sealing power, and with any other doctrine. But how does it benefit the Church, its doctrine, its leaders, its members to call anyone or anything weird or stupid? How are you going to feel that whatever it was that you determined was weird or stupid and it really wasn't.

[Dr. Sunstoned]

MADB is a fount of disinformation. I wouldn't consider it any more reliable as a source for answers. For that matter, walking into any local LDS ward and asking straightforward questions can result in a plethora of answers, many of which will be incorrect.

MAD is a front for nothing. MAD is a message board to discuss and debate Gospel topics from an LDS position. The idea that typical Mormons "front" for the Church is yet another indication of the near paranoid lengths many critics feel they have to go to make their points and justify their exit from the Restored Gospel.

MADB operates primarily as a spin zone.

Actually, it operates primarily as a place to elucidate and clarify LDS doctrine and practice as it is believed by faithful members of the Church.

Frankly, Charity, in a church that has little to no official doctrine, it's pretty hard for anyone to come up with official answers.

This is another example of the kind of ignorance that is never born, but can only be made. This is the kind of ignorance that requires long, determined, and committed dedication to cultivate. Or is it ignorance? I hope so, because if its not, it bespeaks something less than pretty about the mentality making such a claim.

[_Moniker]

And you can find much better answers for such questions on the MA&D board because they actually know the answers.

Is this the ol' "don't go to a Ford dealer to get information on a Chevy" adage? Cause, yeah, the Chevy dealer is certainly going to tell you 100% of the truth, flaws and all of the Chevy, isn't he??

Yes, it is. Because the Chey dealer knows his product. The Ford dealer knows his. So when the Ford dealer doesn't know any answer, he gives the answer he thinks works. And passes along a lot of disinformation. Elementary, Watson.

But the Chevy dealer wants to sell his product. That was Scottie's point. The Ford dealer will tell you the flaws of the Chevy product. If you want to be an informed consumer you would want to know the pros and cons of the product.

[_Coggins7]

I agree that there many be mad-made policies associated with the sealing power, and with any other doctrine. But how does it benefit the Church, its doctrine, its leaders, its members to call anyone or anything weird or stupid? How are you going to feel that whatever it was that you determined was weird or stupid and it really wasn't.

Indeed. How much of a perception such as this is culturally conditioned and in the eye of the beholder? There is a substantial supply of things in the popular culture that, from an LDS perspective, are both weird and stupid.

We should not forget that Paul taught us that to the world, the preaching of the Gospel is "foolishness'. Its weird and stupid. The Romans laughed and mocked Paul openly. The Latter Day Saints expect nothing less from Babylon than this kind of analysis. But this perceptual sword cuts both ways.