Outing Annonymous Posters

[_Some Schmo]

Hello Family, Friends, Colleagues, Students, and Saints:

There are several reasons we have seen what was a very ominous situation become a very hopeful situation. First and foremost, if her cousin, Diana, had not followed her premonition to check on Nicole last Monday, and then get her to the hospital, we might be having a very different (and tragic) report to give you.

We are certain that the prayers and positive thoughts offered by so many people played a significant and profound part in Nicole's healing. Also, the many expressions of concern, hope, and love offered by many people that contacted us via email, telephone, and text messaging, enabled Nicole to know that you are all rooting for her, and this gave her (and us) strength.

Also, in our LDS faith community, we give actual priesthood blessings by the laying on of hands as discussed in the New Testament and elsewhere, and Nicole was the recipient of several of these. I was present for some of them and was struck by the amazing power and faith of one David ****, a Melchizedek Priesthood holder and a man without guile, who boldly rebuked the very disease that brought harm to our daughter.

And something more: members of our congregation back in California, along with others, fasted on behalf of her, and we believe this had a profound effect in opening the heavens and receiving a miracle.....

Did anyone happen to notice how everyone had a hand in this "miracle" except the actual medical staff at the hospital? They obviously didn't exert any of their supernatural powers and only did the mundane stuff, like provide the actual necessary care. If only they had focused their mental energies to join the stream of consciousness and help the flow of psychic healing, they'd have gotten an honorable mention here too.

This is the kind of crap that makes it easy to criticize religion. I mean, just how daft to you have to be to write the quoted BS?

Are not most of our greatest hours as human beings manifest in times of distress, fear, darkness, and suffering?

Sounds like you've been having a greatest hour your whole life.

[_GoodK]

If you'd like to move this from the realm of the internet - since you hate anonymity so much - I'll play along. Don't be a moron.

But I have nothing to be ashamed of as far as that post is concerned. I love my sister and have been worried about her all week.
I find it foul and disgusting to recieve a newsbulletin about how she has been healed through the power of prayer and the priesthood, as if God would have let her die if my family happened to pick the wrong religion.

Kiss my ass Bob.

Exposed for who and what you are eh? Tsk, tsk. What Brother Crockett is talking about here is behavior that we've seen before, using the PM function to make threats and/or engage in foul, juvenile, profane diatribes against others. I find you, goodk, to be rather typical, in a psychological and ethical sense, of the kind of exmormon bomb thrower and provocateur that one encounters on the Internet and in print; the kind of proactive, hostile exmormon that cannot leave the Church alone.

Well Coggins, I don't practice Discussion Board pyschology, so I can't comment on your real persona, but I find your posts here to be horribly dull, mostly incoherent, and reminiscent of a Mormon version of Shirley Phelps.
If I had to place a guess as to what your problem is, I would say it must be depresssing to be despised by most people not only in real life, but in your second life as well.

I also find you views regarding the nature of God and the LDS religion to be both mindless and juvenile.

Funny, coming from someone who spends his time defending the Salt Lake City version of Santa.

Once again, it's odd to me why you spend so much time here, bathing in the attention of ex-mormons.

[_Yoda]

Any comments? Am I irrational in my frustration with Brother Crockett?

I understand your frustration in how Bob handled things which I will get to in a moment. However, Bob did not post your personal information in public. He discussed things with you in a private PM.

Therefore, he did not violate any rules of the board.

As a Church member, though, I think there were a couple of things he did which were inappropriate, particularly as a Bishop.

As a Bishop, he should know better than to suggest a lunch date with a single woman, even if it is for innocent reasons. We have been clearly counseled by Church leaders not to be alone in the same room or car with a person of the opposite sex. I would think that a married bishop having lunch with a single young girl would fall into the lines of "appearance of evil". It would be much more appropriate for him to simply ask you to stop by his office at the ward building during normal interview times.

I also find it a little unethical that he asked your permission to email your family regarding your post here, and yet, he had actually already done it. I mean, really, what was the point?

However, as far as your actions go, you have to understand that you posted the information regarding your family on the Internet, and this is a public forum. There is always a possibility that they would have discovered the post on their own. That is always a risk we inherently take when we post information on any type of public forum. This is not a password protected, private forum that only forum members can read.

[_GoodK]

As a Bishop, he should know better than to suggest a lunch date with a single woman, even if it is for innocent reasons. We have been clearly counseled by Church leaders not to be alone in the same room or car with a person of the opposite sex. I would think that a married bishop having lunch with a single young girl would fall into the lines of "appearance of evil". It would be much more appropriate for him to simply ask you to stop by his office at the ward building during normal interview times.

Without further outing my very Mormon family with details that would be recognizable to those that know them, I'll just say that Bob isn't out of line, even for a bishop, in suggesting a lunch meeting with me.

I also find it a little unethical that he asked your permission to email your family regarding your post here, and yet, he had actually already done it. I mean, really, what was the point?

Yes, this is the part that got under my skin. My family didn't need to see a post that I meant to be annonymous.

However, as far as your actions go, you have to understand that you posted the information regarding your family on the Internet, and this is a public forum. There is always a possibility that they would have discovered the post on their own. That is always a risk we inherently take when we post information on any type of public forum. This is not a password protected, private forum that only forum members can read.

Maybe not, I should have thought about it a bit more I guess. I felt the need to vent, and I felt that this would be a good place to do so.

[_Yoda]

Without further outing my very Mormon family with details that would be recognizable to those that know them, I'll just say that Bob isn't out of line, even for a bishop, in suggesting a lunch meeting with me.

It doesn't matter how "very Mormon" your family is, or how close the friendship is between the Crocketts and your family. It was still inappropriate, and was particularly inappropriate based on his current calling. I think that Bishop Crockett would even be able to see the error of his ways in suggesting this one.

[_Yoda]

Maybe not, I should have thought about it a bit more I guess. I felt the need to vent, and I felt that this would be a good place to do so.

I completely understand, and I see nothing wrong with your post...just wanted to point out all of the underlying consequences.

[_Coggins7]

I also find it a little unethical that he asked your permission to email your family regarding your post here, and yet, he had actually already done it. I mean, really, what was the point?

Well, I find in unethical, if not simply vicious, that goodk posted the material at all in an attempt to mock and impugn a Priesthood blessing that, for all intents and purposes, given the gist of the letter, was intended to promote faith and good tidings in those who read it regarding the love and condescension of God for his children.

Keep up the freakin' pose folks...

[_Jason Bourne]

Any comments? Am I irrational in my frustration with Brother Crockett?

Wow


It looks like Bob actually took your OP and sent it to your father I think, who was the author of the email? Wow.

Well perhaps you should not have posted a family email here but I think that was pretty low of Bob to pass it on to a family member.

Course what do I know.

I am just another anonymous damn hypocrite.

But Bob, I think that was pretty low of you to do that. I agree that Goodk's post was not very good and it was not nice to mock her father's email which really seemed to me to be grateful for what he believed were answered prayers and blessing offered. But what it seems you did was just plain mean and vindictive? Do you think it did her family good to share this?

[_Yoda]

I also find it a little unethical that he asked your permission to email your family regarding your post here, and yet, he had actually already done it. I mean, really, what was the point?

Well, I find in unethical, if not simply vicious, that goodk posted the material at all in an attempt to mock and impugn a Priesthood blessing that, for all intents and purposes, given the gist of the letter, was intended to promote faith and good tidings in those who read it regarding the love and condescension of God for his children.

Keep up the freakin' pose folks...

She admitted that she was venting. How many ad homs have YOU posted here as a form of venting? Give me a break. YOU keep up the pose, Cogs. by the way, why don't you address my post in the Mormon depression thread, or do I simply have you dead to rights?

[_GoodK]

I also find it a little unethical that he asked your permission to email your family regarding your post here, and yet, he had actually already done it. I mean, really, what was the point?

Well, I find in unethical, if not simply vicious, that goodk posted the material at all in an attempt to mock and impugn a Priesthood blessing that, for all intents and purposes, given the gist of the letter, was intended to promote faith and good tidings in those who read it regarding the love and condescension of God for his children.

Keep up the freakin' pose folks...

Ahhh yes, God's good tidings of bacterial and viral infections!
What love and condescension...

Coggins, next time you are kneeling beside your keyboard in prayer, ask your God to keep his love and condescension to himself.