Midgley Threatens to "Out" Bachman

[_guy sajer]

"I am confident that Randy Keyes tried to convince Talmage that his membership in the Church had hopefully made him a better husband than he otherwise might have been trying to make a living in disgusting pop music world."

Oh yes, every single pop star is a disgusting moral degenerate.

I wonder if Gladys Knight escaped being a degenerate since she's an R&B/soul singer.

I wonder how God feels about the Osmonds (it was before my generation so I don't keep up). As a side note, I heard that some LDS members used the popularity of the Osmonds to talk about the church with others and even get converts.

Yep, God hates pop music and if I were an LDS leader God would hate country music too.

I wonder if Midgley has ever looked closely at the high-powered, high testosterone culture of high finance. No no to Wall Street, then.

Soldiers are obsessed with getting drunk and getting laid. I guess this means that the military is bad.

Classical musicians have their fair share of perverts. I hear that Beethoven had premarital sex. Stay away from classical music.

Charles Dickens fathered illegitimate children. Better avoid literature.

Of course, Midgley's frame of reference is principally sex (with some alcohol and drugs mixed in). As if the prudish Mormon view of sex, advanced by men who probably think that doing it through the Holy Garment is just whiz bang, is the standard to which everyone ought to aspire.

Does Midgley realize how stupid this statement makes him look?

Fear of looking foolish, however, does not appear to be a common trait among the BYU apologist cabal.

[_LifeOnaPlate]

Unfortunately for Midgley, his entire argument hinges on the pop music comment, and like a house of cards, easily falls.

[_guy sajer]

Unfortunately for Midgley, his entire argument hinges on the pop music comment, and like a house of cards, easily falls.

And I implied this where exactly . . . ?

[_Trevor]

Does Midgley realize how stupid this statement makes him look?

Unfortunately, there are far too many people who willingly swallow bait and hook when presented with vague accusations against others on moral grounds.

[_Trevor]

And I implied this where exactly . . . ?

Lacking anything to add, LOaP gets his jollies by mocking your post.

[_LifeOnaPlate]

Unfortunately for Midgley, his entire argument hinges on the pop music comment, and like a house of cards, easily falls.

And I implied this where exactly . . . ?

Who said anything about you, Guy? Everything's always about Guy.

[_LifeOnaPlate]

And I implied this where exactly . . . ?

Lacking anything to add, LOaP gets his jollies by mocking your post.

And Trevor gets his by commenting on mine for the same reason.

[_Mister Scratch]

So then, would it be acceptable if Louis Midgely did not publish the private emails and instead just posted in various message boards his personal recollections of what Tal Bacham "said" in those emails?

But, there is a problem in this, A.I.. I frequently hear TBMs defend missionary and Church history "omissions" based on "intent." I.e., there is nothing wrong with the fact that the Church fails to mention MMM, polygamy, the Book of Abraham, Helen Mar, or any number of other controversial facets of Mormonism, since the underlying "intent" is to lead you to eternal salvation. So, what was/is the "intent" of Tal, and what was/is the "intent" of Lou Midgley? It seems to me that Tal's intent (at least during the time of his first recording his discussion w/ the SP) was one of working out his roiling emotions. I have never had the sense that Tal's intent was in any way to "harm" the SP personally. This is supported by Tal's frequent assertions concerning Keyes's good character, and etc.

Now what about Midgley? What possible good or moral motive can he have? The answer is: None. He is doing this purely for revenge.

That's what Tal Bachman did--and you didn't have a problem with that. Bachman never provided the Stake Pres. actual words--good think he didn't tape record the conversation, 'cause if he did, he couldn't make it available publicly without your condemnation, now could he? Instead, Bachman just told everyone what he thinks he heard the Pres. say--so from your line of reasoning, if Louis Midgely wants to avoid crossing a line of what is acceptable, he should just TELL us what Bachman said, but he should not back his claims up with any actual proof.

Personally, I don't care if Midgley "outs" Tal. I would imagine that Tal probably doesn't care that much either. However, none of this changes the fact that Midgley has shown himself to be a petty and vindictive individual.

[_Trevor]

And Trevor gets his by commenting on mine for the same reason.

Commenting on the obvious deficiencies of your post is not the same as writing that post.

[_guy sajer]

Unfortunately for Midgley, his entire argument hinges on the pop music comment, and like a house of cards, easily falls.

And I implied this where exactly . . . ?

Who said anything about you, Guy? Everything's always about Guy.

As it should be.