The official I'm tired of...

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Re: The official I'm tired of...

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Some Schmo wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote: I mean, is posting insults to or about Daniel, supposed to mean something? Do posters who do so, think they've landed a punch for the "team" (read:herd) or something?

It makes people look straight up stupid.

Is posting an insult to people who post insults to Dan supposed to mean something?

Ask yourself why you made this post, and you'll have answered your own question.


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Holy cats, I see my own past experiences on another board in your comments above, beastie. Sometimes when you are engaged in the dance, you are completely unaware that you are one half of a two party exchange and continue on with your part.

I had a poster who attacked me on a regular basis. One episode lasted an entire year. It never occurred to me to withdraw from the exchanges, even when people told me that I should. So, I spent a full year (I'm not joking) responding. The exchanges themselves drove people away from the board and to this day I regret being too stubborn to realize or admit my part in it until long after when I got some perspective about the dynamic.

(Yes, I can go on for an entire year. Just a warning to the general public. ;-)


A whole year!!! Wow!!

I think many posters can relate to this. I know I can. ;) It is very difficult to "let go", particularly when you think you've made a legitimate point and the other individual responds in a sneering, dismissive manner, or outright distorts what you said in the first place. The natural instinct is to defend yourself, to clarify, to explain, to justify. But the cycle just continues, anyway, despite clarifications. At some point it becomes clear that the cycle is, in fact, the entire point, for some reason. And the other poster is likely seeing it in a different light altogether.

Long ago, when I was trying to "understand" my failed marriage, before I extricated myself from it, I read an extremely helpful book: The Verbally Abusive Relationship. The author explained that in certain relationships it is pointless to ask "why" a person does or says X, Y, or Z - because what they are saying or doing is actually peripheral to their real purpose. To figure out their "real purpose", you have to ask: what does the person gain from this behavior? It's a slightly different focus. It immediately enabled me to "understand" my then husband's behavior when all my years of asking "why did he say or do X, Y, and Z" did not help at all. I immediately saw what he gained by this behavior, once I stopped trying to make sense of the details. And that helped me to see the pointlessness of trying to explain, to clarify, to understand - because all of that was peripheral, anyway, and didn't even matter.

It's much more difficult to apply that understanding online, because of the limits of this type of communication. I recognize I often fail to apply that understanding in debates that go on pointlessly. If I could remember that lesson I learned in real life, that has served me so well, on the internet, I would probably stop pointless exchanges long before I do. I would understand that the "gain" is something completely unrelated to what the poster is actually saying, anyway, so tackling what they are saying will not help, but will only continue the cycle. The problem is that, on the internet, because we don't know each other well, we can only guess at the "gain".

I also think women have more difficulty letting go trying to explain because we are so verbally and relationship oriented.
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I imagine it must get tiring for Dr. Peterson to be on the MAD board where he is held in such iconic reverence. He can let his hair down over here and just be one of the posters. Of course, that might be hard to do with many people on his back other than the designated back rider Mr. Scratch. It is no fair for him to have to perform as Bruce Lee and engage in multiple scuffles at the same time.
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moksha wrote:I imagine it must get tiring for Dr. Peterson to be on the MAD board where he is held in such iconic reverence. He can let his hair down over here and just be one of the posters. Of course, that might be hard to do with many people on his back other than the designated back rider Mr. Scratch. It is no fair for him to have to perform as Bruce Lee and engage in multiple scuffles at the same time.
Oh please.

Dan incites all of his scuffles.

If he never replies to Scratch, would it be called a scuffle?

What puzzles me is why Dan even responds to what he considers as well known lies.
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Oh please.

Dan incites all of his scuffles.


Who initiates the threads?

If he never replies to Scratch, would it be called a scuffle?


It would be called an obsessed person suffering from lack of response.

What puzzles me is why Dan even responds to what he considers as well known lies.



Why do you say such things? Why does a person respond to lies?

So that the truth is given a voice.

I should think that as an ex-Mo who believes he was lied to by a church, you yourself would have a great desire for truth. No?
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Remember she can go a whole year witout sex that is cause she lives in New Jersey...And they don't have many or have many cold winters cuase she makes soup..in a pot..vegatable stew cause she and her hubby get snowed in alot..cuase she lives in Wisconsin....at least that is where I thought she said she lived at one time...
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And Julianne likes to talk to herself..or perhaps it was Charity that like to talk to herself as well..
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I could take a 1000 DCP posts, a 1000 posts by Scratch. I could take most any and all arguing about anything, but the one thing I can't stand [in the moments I pop in on occasion] is the moronic, incoherent stream of conscience posts by SUAS. Please shut the “F” up you moronic idiot. That is all.

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B23 wrote:I could take a 1000 DCP posts, a 1000 posts by Scratch. I could take most any and all arguing about anything, but the one thing I can't stand [in the moments I pop in on occasion] is the moronic, incoherent stream of conscience posts by SUAS. Please shut the f*** up you moronic idiot. That is all.

The Artist formerly known as Bond.


Thank you so much.
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B23 wrote:I could take a 1000 DCP posts, a 1000 posts by Scratch. I could take most any and all arguing about anything, but the one thing I can't stand [in the moments I pop in on occasion] is the moronic, incoherent stream of conscience posts by SUAS. Please shut the f*** up you moronic idiot. That is all.

The Artist formerly known as Bond.


LOL.
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