Scott Gordon finally gets it

[_moksha]

Well, I thought that bit about Nephites living in an underwater dome at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico lacking all credibility. Does anyone even have to refute such nonsense?

Right on. Give us theories with well documented evidence!

[_Jason Bourne]

Well this is my point. One may this in books by Quinn, or in Mormon Enigma. One may find it in RSR which is a recent item on the market. But not one Church published book that I am aware of covers any of this stuff. You want it you have to go out and find it and the official line leaves a lot of holes in order to have a faith promoting history and mythical like story.

I never took seminary, YW, or Primary (converted when I was in college), so I don't know what's in those manuals. Was there any mention of those issues you just listed in the material you covered growing up, Jason?

Nope. There were discussions about polygamy and I was aware that Joseph introduced it but bo discussion of the extent or polyandry. I do recall some about the Kirtland Bank as well but not much detail.

[_Trevor]

Nope. There were discussions about polygamy and I was aware that Joseph introduced it but bo discussion of the extent or polyandry. I do recall some about the Kirtland Bank as well but not much detail.

Nor did correlated literature ever adequately address the Nephites in underwater domes thing! I want straight answers, and I want them yesterday.

[_moksha]

I do recall some about the Kirkland Bank as well but not much detail.

This was mentioned in our Gospel Doctrine class. What was proffered was so full of misinformation, that it lead me to assume the average chapel Mormon is chalk full of incorrect historical knowledge about the Church, leaving them extremely vulnerable or else in a state of denial if ever confronted with accurate historical data.

[_collegeterrace]

I do recall some about the Kirkland Bank as well but not much detail.

This was mentioned in our Gospel Doctrine class. What was proffered was so full of misinformation, that it lead me to assume the average chapel Mormon is chalk full of incorrect historical knowledge about the Church, leaving them extremely vulnerable or else in a state of denial if ever confronted with accurate historical data.

My book would be a hot seller in Elohim's country(Ewwtah)

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[_Jason Bourne]

Though he acknowledges it probably wouldn't help much in discussions with the person who is leaving the church, Gordon does make a valid -- and rather obvious -- point: Claiming that the church is hiding things that one found while reading church books is, well, a tad self-contradictory.

Gordon may state this but I am skeptical. I wonder what issues and what Church books he and the email correspondent is referring too? I highly doubt one will find the details of Polyandry, Adam God, Blood atonement, post manifesto polygamy, the debacle with the Kirtland Bank, the evolution of the priesthood in the early church or the details of changes in revelations from the BoC to the D&C. Can you give me examples of Church written books that lay these out?

I am not sure how muchy Scott Lloyd posts here but I am reposting this in hopes of a response. Lloyd took time to point out what he thinks is obvious-that one can find details about Church history that my be among the more difficult issues while reading Church books.

I ask again for examples of Church books that discuss the things I mention above in my earlier post. Mr. Lloyd I anxiously await your response.

[_Ray A]

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