Who was Shulem?

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Re: Who was Shulem?

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The photo of Mark Hoffman and the big boys is clear indication of a lack of inspiration. Mark Hoffmans hair is over his ear and over his shirt collar. Clear evidence he is an infidel and rebellious, not a person to be trusted. If he cannot live BYU standards of grooming how can he be trusted? Seeing this his later murders are easily understood!

And Paul, Shulem is the black dude playing grabass with the guy in front of him. Not only a slave but apparently a gay one at that.
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zzyzx wrote:The photo of Mark Hoffman and the big boys is clear indication of a lack of inspiration. Mark Hoffmans hair is over his ear and over his shirt collar. Clear evidence he is an infidel and rebellious, not a person to be trusted. If he cannot live BYU standards of grooming how can he be trusted? Seeing this his later murders are easily understood!

And Paul, Shulem is the black dude playing grabass with the guy in front of him. Not only a slave but apparently a gay one at that.


Joseph Smith didn’t have time to finish his story and reveal the homosexual tendencies of the African slave. Just imagine all the silly conversations that took place between General Authorities later in Utah as they discussed the scene in the upper rooms of the temple. They had no idea what the scene represented. They were just as uninspired as was poor President Kimball looking through his magnifying glass as if he was a real seer! Kimball proved to the world that he is no seer and lacks the power to discern.

William boy would probably like to say that President Kimball was only a man and was subject to making mistakes as all men are. The problem is, this mistake fatally exposes the pretended prophet and his buddies surrounding him for what they really are.

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EXPLANATION
Fig. 1. Abraham sitting upon Pharaoh’s throne, by the politeness of the king, with a crown upon his head, representing the Priesthood, as emblematical of the grand Presidency in Heaven; with the scepter of justice and judgment in his hand.
Fig. 2. King Pharaoh, whose name is given in the characters above his head.
Fig. 3. Signifies Abraham in Egypt as given also in Figure 10 of Facsimile No. 1.
Fig. 4. Prince of Pharaoh, King of Egypt, as written above the hand.
Fig. 5. Shulem, one of the king’s principal waiters, as represented by the characters above his hand.
Fig. 6. Olimlah, a slave belonging to the prince.


When I look at the scene, I see a guy guided forward - lead by the hand by the so called prince of Pharoah, who turns back to reassure the guy following - Shulem, who is aslo being guded forth by the slave Olimnah. What an odd scene is created out of JSJrs identification.I could forgive his confusion about the women. It is only our modern knowledge of their dress that makes us recognise them. He would also, if sommehow equating masonic ritual with egyption, just not expect to see women in such 'high' scenes.
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Danna wrote: It is only our modern knowledge of their dress that makes us recognise them.


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It’s quite plausible that Joseph Smith was completely oblivious to the idea that women could be near royal Egyptian thrones. He figured that the women were out sewing and baking bread while the business of man’s work, priesthood, and important affairs was before the throne. Joseph Smith in his ignorance took one look at those dresses and figured they were the cheesy robes worn by ancient priests.

Chalk it up to the uninspired musings of a false prophet. Just like President Kimball looking at a fake document and forking over all that sacred tithing money for them. Smith and Kimball were two peas in a pod.

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Re: Who was Shulem?

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First, Joseph did not recognize the figures as women because they are flat chested. The Bible clearly states that flat chested women should be 'built up'. Make a 'tower' for them so they are enticing to real men. It is biblical and we know Joseph read the Bible, Joseph tells us so in The Joseph Smith Story of The First Vision.


His interpretation of the meaning of Hor and Anubis was not valid at all.

Joseph was sensible and circumspect. He gave code names, like was done in Doctrine and Covenants. The code names for those in the drawing make sure you don't mistake Hor for Whore and Anubus for Anus or a new butt or some other gutter reference. Joseph was very in tune with how thing can be misconstrued and how the stories get changed... after hall he had more than 20 women around and trying to keep the excuses straight gave him a lot of practice.
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zzyzx wrote: First, Joseph did not recognize the figures as women because they are flat chested


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I think you may have a valid point, perhaps in Joseph Smith’s mind flat chested women were the lesser of women. I wonder what Brigham thought.

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Re: Who was Shulem?

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Paul, take a good look at the enlarged picture you posted and you will get a good look into the true greatness of Joseph Smith and his inspiration.

The figures are drawn this way to trap and trip up the unwary and uninspired. Notice: NO High Heels. No silk stockings. No panty hose(a Prophet would know of Panty hose, certainly a Seer would see them in coming attractions of things to come).

So, once again the greatness of Joseph is shown to all seeking Truth, even in the simplest of drawings done personally by Father Abraham and Moses.
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zzyzx wrote: So, once again the greatness of Joseph is shown to all seeking Truth, even in the simplest of drawings done personally by Father Abraham and Moses



What about the phallus of the God Min as depicted in many other portraitures of Min with uplifted left hand and erect phallus? Did Joseph Smith have a GRASP on that one too? This is getting to be a hot topic.

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The one you highlight in RED is a Red Herring. Frozen stiff and held close to entice the bird to come and get it... foreshadowing the Thanksgiving Turkey feast. Many interpretations can be made of this drawing with tame ones coming from LDSinc and more racy ones coming forth the closer one comes to San Francisco and Amsterdam.

In the world of LDSinc it cannot be an erect phallus. In the words of Gordon B. Hinckley, its 'not doctrinal'. In the words of Joseph Smith... who you gonng believe... ME, or your own lying eyes?
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Re: Who was Shulem?

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The one you highlight in RED is a Red Herring. Frozen stiff and held close to entice the bird to come and get it... foreshadowing the Thanksgiving Turkey feast. Many interpretations can be made of this drawing with tame ones coming from LDSinc and more racy ones coming forth the closer one comes to San Francisco and Amsterdam.

In the world of LDSinc it cannot be an erect phallus. In the words of Gordon B. Hinckley, its 'not doctrinal'. In the words of Joseph Smith: who you gonna believe... ME, or your own lying eyes?
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you do criticize them you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes.
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