Buffalo wrote: I believe that accepting fantastic claims without fantastic evidence is foolish.
Hey Buffalo,
My last post here as I believe we are posting the same things over and over.
You do not consider the belief that "There is no God/Creator" ia a "fantastic claim"? You think there is "fantastic evidence" that there is no God/Creator?
Some might suggest that lends itself to the word "foolish"!
Peace, Ceeboo
No, it isn't a fantastic claim, since all the available evidence is in complete harmony with that claim.
Again, a god about which we know nothing cannot be disproved, but there is no evidence for his/her/its existence.
A god about which we know sufficiently is easily proved to be fictional.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Read Genesis and Exodus and the entire Old Testament. That is the basis of the God I propose.
Look at the physical evidences of the world around us. The recurrent vagus nerve in all tetrapods, the overwhelming evidence showing a global flood could not have happened, the great-ape chromosomes combined to make the human #2 chromosome, vestigial organs, radiometric dating, scads of intermediate forms in fossil beds worldwide… all these 'evidences' were put in place as a red herrings by the God that I propose. This God is deceitful and constantly lies to his created children in order to hide his own existence.
Disprove THAT God!!!
ETA: This God is the best fit for the data we have.
eschew obfuscation
"I'll let you believers in on a little secret: not only is the LDS church not really true, it's obviously not true." -Sethbag
Buffalo wrote:While we cannot disprove the existence of god in the most vague terms, every specific God worshiped on earth can easily be debunked. This is because there are specific claims made about every specific god that are falsifiable, and where claims of the supernatural are falsifiable, they are inevitably falsified.
Certainly that is true of the various gods worshiped by the Abrahamic religions. All of them have been proven to be imaginary.
You cannot prove the "various gods worshipped by the Abrahamic religions" to be imaginary.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Buffalo wrote:While we cannot disprove the existence of god in the most vague terms, every specific God worshiped on earth can easily be debunked. This is because there are specific claims made about every specific god that are falsifiable, and where claims of the supernatural are falsifiable, they are inevitably falsified.
Certainly that is true of the various gods worshiped by the Abrahamic religions. All of them have been proven to be imaginary.
You cannot prove the "various gods worshipped by the Abrahamic religions" to be imaginary.
I already have.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
The Torah claims that the God of Abraham flooded the earth some 4,000 years ago and killed everything except 8 people and a boatload of animals. Given the fact that this never happened, the god(s) of Abraham are totally mythbusted.
Are you familiar with the term "tribal narrative"?
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
beefcalf wrote:I would like to propose the existence of a God.
Read Genesis and Exodus and the entire Old Testament. That is the basis of the God I propose.
Look at the physical evidences of the world around us. The recurrent vagus nerve in all tetrapods, the overwhelming evidence showing a global flood could not have happened, the great-ape chromosomes combined to make the human #2 chromosome, vestigial organs, radiometric dating, scads of intermediate forms in fossil beds worldwide… all these 'evidences' were put in place as a red herrings by the God that I propose. This God is deceitful and constantly lies to his created children in order to hide his own existence.
Disprove THAT God!!!
ETA: This God is the best fit for the data we have.
Another mopologist wet dream!
If you create a god like this that precisely hides within all the available evidence, you succeed in protecting him from falsifiability. Unfortunately, I doubt anyone would worship such a creature.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
The Torah claims that the God of Abraham flooded the earth some 4,000 years ago and killed everything except 8 people and a boatload of animals. Given the fact that this never happened, the god(s) of Abraham are totally mythbusted.
Are you familiar with the term "tribal narrative"?
Either the narrative is true or it isn't. Either God, in a fit of pique murdered most of humanity and covered the world with water, or he didn't.
Unfortunately for Yahweh, he didn't. Ergo Yahweh's holy writ is a fiction, as is Yahweh.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
@ beefcalf: Nope. Once God of the Bible lies he automatically ceases to be God.
The End
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Jersey Girl: Are you familiar with the term "tribal narrative"?
Buffalo: Either the narrative is true or it isn't. Either God, in a fit of pique murdered most of humanity and covered the world with water, or he didn't.
Unfortunately for Yahweh, he didn't. Ergo Yahweh's holy writ is a fiction, as is Yahweh.
Jersey Girl: It's tribal narrative. Look it up. Do some research. You don't understand what you're talking about.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb