Mormonism and the arts

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zeezrom wrote:I'm a little nervous now about what people might be able to find out about my personal family life online. I believe a line was crossed on this thread.


Hello Mr. Z,

I agree. I don't think Mr. Simon should've posted a picture of my wife in his blog.

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Doctor Scratch wrote:I guess he's too much of a stodgy, grimly humorless philistine to understand. What a pity!

Nah. They're gritty crime games where the main character works his (or, in SR2, her) way up the criminal ladder by engaging in all kinds of gang warfare, drug trafficking, extortion, production of pornography, insurance fraud, assassination, etc. I wouldn't blame any Mormon (or any kind of Christian, for that matter) for thinking they aren't appropriate and not wanting their children to play them. The GTA series especially got increasingly lewd and vulgar as it went on. GTA: III was kind of tame and innocent compared to San Andreas and IV.

What attracted me to them was that they're driving games, and I've always been especially good at driving games. GTA: III also had entertaining dialogue and provocative social commentary and parody via the radio shows.

My tastes are usually a bit more innocent. I liked the Sonic the Hedgehog and Super Mario Bros. franchises as a kid, and Star Tropics was a geek's dream. Lately my daughter has been crushing on the Portal games, which are pretty darn family-friendly, and I'm pleased that she's into a brainy puzzle game with a female protagonist and female villain. I got her a weighted companion cube for her birthday next week, and the cake will not be a lie.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Buffalo wrote:Could you expand on that?

Yeah. I could. At considerable length and with a wealth of examples.

This interests me. My wife and I, though scarcely wealthy, have even commissioned a few paintings and two very serious musical compositions.

Seriously Daniel?

So you paid to have a couple of paintings done and have a song written for your family, AND this explains how involved Mormonism is to the wide world of art?

I will assume the paintings were of family or children?
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Hello,

What kind of egomaniac commissions a painting of one's self and one's family?

Sheesh.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Hello,

What kind of egomaniac commissions a painting of one's self and one's family?

Sheesh.

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Commissioned is the term that people use to attempt to set themselves above others when talking about a painting hanging on the wall of their home.

Regular folk just say that they paid a local artist to paint a portrait for them.
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harmony wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Hello,

What kind of egomaniac commissions a painting of one's self and one's family?

Sheesh.

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Me. Why wouldn't I? I have several paintings in my home, all of them originals, some of them quite valuable. I don't see why this is an issue. Should I apologize to all and sundry because I value real paintings?


Nothing wrong with that, but do you use the term commissioned when you tell visitors that you paid the artist for their work?
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Polygamy-Porter wrote:Nothing wrong with that, but do you use the term commissioned when you tell visitors that you paid the artist for their work?


What's wrong with the word "commissioned", if that's what I did?

Personally, I detest prints of all kinds. I buy virtually nothing from the church bookstore.
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harmony: Sorry. Took one too many. Stay on topic!
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Polygamy-Porter wrote:Seriously Daniel?

Seriously. The musical compositions -- actually, now that I think about it, there have been three -- were serious pieces of a distinctly modern kind written by a classically-trained academic composer, a Latter-day Saint, who holds a Ph.D. in composition from a university on the American east coast.

Polygamy-Porter wrote:So you paid to have a couple of paintings done and have a song written for your family,

No "song" for my family. One of the pieces was a setting of an ancient Egyptian poem, in Egyptian, and the other two were instrumental (e.g., one was for cello and piano, for public performance in concert by a specific professional cellist whom we know).

Polygamy-Porter wrote:AND this explains how involved Mormonism is to the wide world of art?

No, this makes the point that my wife and are seriously involved in the visual arts and in music, and specifically with Latter-day Saint instrumentalists, composers, and painters. To the tune of, relative to our fairly modest income, a considerable amount of money. (Commission is the term that is used in such cases.)

We know the scene reasonably well, as, in a sense, participants and not just onlookers.

Which is to say that, if this were a good place for a discussion of the topic, I would find it quite interesting, and would very likely have something to say.

Polygamy-Porter wrote:I will assume the paintings were of family or children?

They were not.

But notice how quickly your assumption becomes Doctor CamNC4Me's certainty:

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:What kind of egomaniac commissions a painting of one's self and one's family?

Sheesh.

The answer is, of course, that lots of people commission such paintings. Portraiture is one of the largest areas of painting, as anybody even minimally versed in the history of art would know. And it continues to be such, even since the rise of photography. There is nothing whatever wrong with it.

But I did not. We have commissioned no paintings of ourselves and/or of our family.
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I am interested in a Mormon student at a for example some soe French art school would be considered not living the standards of the LDS church if they were involved in doing a painting of a nude, with the nude model of the oppositie sex of the student. It seems LDS place great importance on the body, but have certain rules about its method of display.
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