Disliking Joseph Smith

The catch-all forum for general topics and debates. Minimal moderation. Rated PG to PG-13.
Post Reply
_Droopy
_Emeritus
Posts: 9826
Joined: Mon May 12, 2008 4:06 pm

Re: Disliking Joseph Smith

Post by _Droopy »

Intentionally making an unwarranted and unsupported accusation, such as the one you've made against me, is known in most circles as lying.


I said you had passed on the lies and unsupported slanders of others, and yes, uncritically and with little balanced analysis, as I've observed your arguments over the years.

But you would never stoop to apologizing to a dirtbag apostate like me.


There's that bad conscience again.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us

- President Ezra Taft Benson


I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.

- Thomas Sowell
_Runtu
_Emeritus
Posts: 16721
Joined: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:06 am

Re: Disliking Joseph Smith

Post by _Runtu »

Droopy wrote:And then comes the bite, and...

Paralyzation.

Then the prey is slowly liquefied and devoured...while still living, leaving only a moist, blackened corpse behind, empty of its own life giving tissues.

What better metaphor of the loss of our souls to Satan in that process of becoming his "children?" He is a "roaring lion" prowling around the earth seeking "whom he may devour."

A Lion indeed, but a spider is also a nice metaphorical symbol of his techniques. Lions don't have webs, but he has a "great chain in his hand." Well, as well we could say a great web of chains.

The only thing silly is perhaps your lack of imagination.


To recap: Droopy accuses me of lying. When he is called on this absurd and patently dishonest accusation, he doesn't apologize, like a reasonable person would. Nope, he just gives a lengthy metaphor on the state of my soul, which apparently isn't pretty.

Is that what the gospel has done for you, Droopy? Are you so past feeling that you can't even apologize when you do something dishonest?

I thought better of you. I really did.
Runtu's Rincón

If you just talk, I find that your mouth comes out with stuff. -- Karl Pilkington
_zeezrom
_Emeritus
Posts: 11938
Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:57 pm

Re: Disliking Joseph Smith

Post by _zeezrom »

God, Droopy. Go watch a comedy or read some Gary Larsen jokes. Do something positive and get a grip on the brighter side of life.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)

The Holy Sacrament.
_Runtu
_Emeritus
Posts: 16721
Joined: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:06 am

Re: Disliking Joseph Smith

Post by _Runtu »

Droopy wrote:I said you had passed on the lies and unsupported slanders of others, and yes, uncritically and with little balanced analysis, as I've observed your arguments over the years.


And you well know that your accusation is a lie.

There's that bad conscience again.


Nah, my conscience is clear. I don't tell lies about people. I wish I could say the same about you.
Runtu's Rincón

If you just talk, I find that your mouth comes out with stuff. -- Karl Pilkington
_Runtu
_Emeritus
Posts: 16721
Joined: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:06 am

Re: Disliking Joseph Smith

Post by _Runtu »

zeezrom wrote:God, Droopy. Go watch a comedy or read some Gary Larsen jokes. Do something positive and get a grip on the brighter side of life.


I don't understand why people can't just say, "I disagree with you," instead of throwing out ridiculous accusations of lying.
Runtu's Rincón

If you just talk, I find that your mouth comes out with stuff. -- Karl Pilkington
_Droopy
_Emeritus
Posts: 9826
Joined: Mon May 12, 2008 4:06 pm

Re: Disliking Joseph Smith

Post by _Droopy »

To recap: Droopy accuses me of lying.


To recap: you are now lying yourself. Here is what I originally said:

You've been repeating the lies and defamations of his traditional critics here for a number of years; claims that you cannot support with evidence or facts, nor with compelling argument.


I didn't say you lied. I said you've been repeating the lies of others, uncritically and, yes, I think disingenuously, given the counter-evidence available.

When he is called on this absurd and patently dishonest accusation, he doesn't apologize, like a reasonable person would. Nope, he just gives a lengthy metaphor on the state of my soul, which apparently isn't pretty.


Given much of what you've said in these forums over the years, both about Joseph Smith and about the Church and its teachings generally, I'd say that there are some ugly scars on it, yes. There are on mine too, but not of the same kind.

Is that what the gospel has done for you, Droopy? Are you so past feeling that you can't even apologize when you do something dishonest?

I thought better of you. I really did.


Oh for crying out loud cut the grandiose moral breast beating. Are we back to that again?
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us

- President Ezra Taft Benson


I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.

- Thomas Sowell
_Droopy
_Emeritus
Posts: 9826
Joined: Mon May 12, 2008 4:06 pm

Re: Disliking Joseph Smith

Post by _Droopy »

zeezrom wrote:God, Droopy. Go watch a comedy or read some Gary Larsen jokes. Do something positive and get a grip on the brighter side of life.



I'm watching comedy right now by being here.

Dark comedy, but comedy nonetheless.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us

- President Ezra Taft Benson


I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.

- Thomas Sowell
_Runtu
_Emeritus
Posts: 16721
Joined: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:06 am

Re: Disliking Joseph Smith

Post by _Runtu »

Droopy wrote:To recap: you are now lying yourself. Here is what I originally said:

You've been repeating the lies and defamations of his traditional critics here for a number of years; claims that you cannot support with evidence or facts, nor with compelling argument.


I didn't say you lied. I said you've been repeating the lies of others, uncritically and, yes, I think disingenuously, given the counter-evidence available.


I fail to see the difference between lying and repeating a lie, especially when you think I did so disingenuously and contra the evidence. Again, you know as well as everyone else does, that your accusation is a lie.

Given much of what you've said in these forums over the years, both about Joseph Smith and about the Church and its teachings generally, I'd say that there are some ugly scars on it, yes. There are on mine too, but not of the same kind.


My soul is my own business. I have never once opined on the condition of yours.

Oh for crying out loud cut the grandiose moral breast beating. Are we back to that again?


Give it a rest.
Runtu's Rincón

If you just talk, I find that your mouth comes out with stuff. -- Karl Pilkington
_Runtu
_Emeritus
Posts: 16721
Joined: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:06 am

Re: Disliking Joseph Smith

Post by _Runtu »

Did I mention that Droopy takes things way too seriously?
Runtu's Rincón

If you just talk, I find that your mouth comes out with stuff. -- Karl Pilkington
_Dr. Shades
_Emeritus
Posts: 14117
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:07 pm

Re: Disliking Joseph Smith

Post by _Dr. Shades »

consiglieri wrote:Here come the stories about Duane Crowther . . .

Why? What happened to Duane Crowther?
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"

--Louis Midgley
Post Reply