Worst LDS talks ever

[_Simon Belmont]

Wait, wait, wait... Didn't DeTodd's dad hold the Holy Priesthood of the One True Church? I'd imagine he would have been at least a level 40 priesthood holder, with some of his sons holding a form of the acolyte priesthood. Shouldn't their combined priestly powers and authority of god have allowed them to reveal truths heretofore unknown to 1950's era

This priesthood concept is obviously way above your head, LDST. I recommend you find a thread that is more on your level.

[_just me]

For anyone who thinks that "working through the pain" is somehow noble I want to remind you that people can do permanent damage to their bodies by doing this!!! It is stupid. I know peoplel think that the Olympian or athlete who plays even though they have a serious injury is a hero, but I think they are making a stupid choice.
I know of people who neglected their own bodies/needs and are now permanently disabled and unable to properly care for themselves or their children.

This is a BAD example for people.

[_Simon Belmont]

We're talking about ironing, you idiot.

H.

We all have duties in the family. No one duty is above another in importance. Again, this might be too difficult for you to grasp.

[_Simon Belmont]

For anyone who thinks that "working through the pain" is somehow noble I want to remind you that people can do permanent damage to their bodies by doing this!!! It is stupid. I know peoplel think that the Olympian or athlete who plays even though they have a serious injury is a hero, but I think they are making a stupid choice.
I know of people who neglected their own bodies/needs and are now permanently disabled and unable to properly care for themselves or their children.

This is a BAD example for people.

You may call this woman stupid if it suits you. I choose not to.

I wonder which of us is being sexist.

[_Simon Belmont]

No.

But there was a church president who said that.

"Do you wish to marry a girl whose education has been far superior to your own?"

I expect you won't judge an entire people by something one person said that you disagree with.

How many traditional Christian leaders have said racist or sexist things throughout the centuries? I do not hold you responsible for them.

[_just me]

For anyone who thinks that "working through the pain" is somehow noble I want to remind you that people can do permanent damage to their bodies by doing this!!! It is stupid. I know peoplel think that the Olympian or athlete who plays even though they have a serious injury is a hero, but I think they are making a stupid choice.
I know of people who neglected their own bodies/needs and are now permanently disabled and unable to properly care for themselves or their children.

This is a BAD example for people.

You may call this woman stupid if it suits you. I choose not to.

I wonder which of us is being sexist.

Regardless of sex, working through pain or against doctors orders is reckless. Like I said, I know of people who are now PERMANENTLY DISABLED due to neglecting theit bodies needs. Like, bedridden. Like, have the children taken from the filthy home. That kind of disabled. There is nothing noble about it. There is nothing sexist about pointing out poor decision making skills. Let it be a warning to others who may be considering sacrificing themselves on the altar of their family.

If there are SIX able bodied people in the home who had working arms to do the damn ironing they should have done the damn ironing!!! It's really not that difficult to understand.

If I was a man and my wife was damned crying from excrutiating pain every time she ironed I would hide the iron and do whatever it took to see that she understood that I cared more about her health than I did about her doing the ironing.

[_Darth J]

The answer is no. No hill is too small to die on.

Yes, if only I could see Todd Christofferson's facial expressions and hand gestures so I could pick up on his non-verbal cues. I bet that somehow that would have made this story less hilariously sexist and based on a misguided premise of letting this woman suffer for a year instead of the husband just doing the damn ironing himself.

Yeah, just like if the spouse who chooses to focus on her or his career gets sick or has surgery but has no accumulated vacation times should just insist that his or or her partner just go to work for her or him, right Darth J?

Shall I take your non-response to mean that you are abandoning your previous idea that I missed 70% of the message because I can't see non-verbal cues in the written word?

Was not the purported message of Christofferson's talk about being a man? Why can't a man just pick up the slack without needing to have his partner "insist" on it?

What's really sexist is you believing that the woman in the story is so weak and incapable that she is unable to do the ironing while in pain.

Otherwise known as, "the point of the damned story," which is the explicit reason why the husband bought the machine that does the ironing.

I commend this person for her strength and honor.

I know that the Congressional Medal of Honor is reserved for members of the armed forces, but maybe that could be expanded to include spouses who iron each other's clothes.

So instead of using every opportunity to blindly attack the church, you and your buddies here should think about what you're saying lest you expose your foolishness.

Hmm, let me ponder that.......yes, I'm pretty sure that what I am ridiculing is an unverifiable anecdote about a man knowingly allowing his wife to experience recurring physical pain for a year so he could save up to buy a machine that would spare him the indignity of having to iron his own clothes.

[_Chap]

We're talking about ironing, you idiot.

H.

We all have duties in the family. No one duty is above another in importance. Again, this might be too difficult for you to grasp.

Yes. Remembering that we are talking about a story, told specifically to edify us, we know how the CoJCoLDS wants us to talk in our families:

"Mom has to cry in pain for hours after doing the ironing. Why don't we stop her doing it?".

"Weren't you listening to General Conference? It's her duty."

I love the way you can get Belmont to keep on saying things that sound more and more damaging to the Church, in the belief that he is somehow defending it against critics.

[_Darth J]

We all have duties in the family. No one duty is above another in importance. Again, this might be too difficult for you to grasp.

It was difficult for my wife to grasp, too---at first. But as the blows from my belt rained down on her quivering flesh, she eventually learned that we all have duties in our family.

[_Chap]

We all have duties in the family. No one duty is above another in importance. Again, this might be too difficult for you to grasp.

It was difficult for my wife to grasp, too---at first. But as the blows from my belt rained down on her quivering flesh, she eventually learned that we all have duties in our family.

And in the end, as both of us know, she will be grateful that you did yours.