Loss of belief in a devil...

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Buffalo wrote:
Nightlion wrote:
The Salem witch trials happened because many of those Pilgrims were as much true saints as they could be without the restoration and then some fell away. It is falling away from light and truth that gives Satan unusual powers that manifests rarely at times. The Book of Mormon shows this point well.


Actually, they probably happened do to spoiled bread, and the ergot hallucinogens contained in it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergotism#S ... ccusations


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Rambo wrote:I once thought to myself that if I can prove the devil exists then I can prove there is a God. Since God doesn't show himself and really doesn't do anything then maybe satan will show me. But then again maybe Satan knows my heart and if I find out he does exist then I would become a believer again. It's kind of hard to trick the devil.

On the mission I had a companion that was so scared of satan. He didn't even like mentioning his name cause he thought it would bring him into the world.


Give me two months of undivided attention and discipline in the devoted pursuit of the knowledge of God and you will get astonishing substantive results if you are honest and not hypocrite in your intentions. Yeah, you would have to give it full time attention, not drive, not work, just you with your thoughts, but out in the real world and not isolated. You need to contrast your purposefulness against the real world, walk among the people, forgive, be charitable, want love to exist and rule in your heart, yielding the hope of you heart and will to the sovereignty of Jesus Christ. Taking his name upon you with full purpose of heart. This is the meekness of a broken heart and contrite spirit that desires a living relationship with God directly as promised of God and shed upon all those whom the Father has given unto Christ.
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Nightlion wrote:
Rambo wrote:I once thought to myself that if I can prove the devil exists then I can prove there is a God. Since God doesn't show himself and really doesn't do anything then maybe satan will show me. But then again maybe Satan knows my heart and if I find out he does exist then I would become a believer again. It's kind of hard to trick the devil.

On the mission I had a companion that was so scared of satan. He didn't even like mentioning his name cause he thought it would bring him into the world.


Give me two months of undivided attention and discipline in the devoted pursuit of the knowledge of God and you will get astonishing substantive results if you are honest and not hypocUrite in your intentions. Yeah, you would have to give it full time attention, not drive, not work, just you with your thoughts, but out in the real world and not isolated. You need to contrast your purposefulness against the real world, walk among the people, forgive, be charitable, want love to exist and rule in your heart, yielding the hope of you heart and will to the sovereignty of Jesus Christ. Taking his name upon you with full purpose of heart. This is the meekness of a broken heart and contrite spirit that desires a living relationship with God directly as promised of God and shed upon all those whom the Father has given unto Christ.
Christians let their lives go, as baptism if the sign of death, that they might be raised up new creatures in the love of God. And that of God and his power not the flattering words of deceitful moneychangers.
I' m very interested in this. What would this program consist of specifically?
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Mad Viking wrote:
Nightlion wrote:
Give me two months of undivided attention and discipline in the devoted pursuit of the knowledge of God and you will get astonishing substantive results if you are honest and not hypocUrite in your intentions. Yeah, you would have to give it full time attention, not drive, not work, just you with your thoughts, but out in the real world and not isolated. You need to contrast your purposefulness against the real world, walk among the people, forgive, be charitable, want love to exist and rule in your heart, yielding the hope of you heart and will to the sovereignty of Jesus Christ. Taking his name upon you with full purpose of heart. This is the meekness of a broken heart and contrite spirit that desires a living relationship with God directly as promised of God and shed upon all those whom the Father has given unto Christ.
Christians let their lives go, as baptism if the sign of death, that they might be raised up new creatures in the love of God. And that of God and his power not the flattering words of deceitful moneychangers.
I' m very interested in this. What would this program consist of specifically?


First off, what do you mean by changing my word like that?

You would need enough money to care for yourself until done. The program would require that you move out and live alone, into a sleeping room or motel, hotel if you can afford it for possibly as long as two months. Camp with the Occupy Wall Street movement for a cheap stay. You do not need to constantly read scripture or listen only to inspirational (if such a thing exists in our day) music. External influences are reduced to only your disengaged interacting with people, mostly strangers, as you get out amongst the people wrapped in a purposeful intent to coalesce your might, mind and strength upon being drawn to making a ratified covenant with God. Not a "thank you Jesus" moment. Not anything suggested to you by me or anyone in our world. You desire a connection with God and will not be satisfied with anything less. You want to be born of God, become his son or his daughter. The instigation might be accepting the truth that you are NOT already a child of God and that you have NO rights with him in the least. You may want to preparation this for a good while before you concentrate on making the event happen. You are seeking righteousness, which is rights with God.

By disengaged I mean you do not get into conversations. You can yearn for the welfare of people say a word or two in passing give a dollar to someone who may ask. Become a Zombie to this world in Christ. Be dead until Christ brings you back to life. Allow yourself to sink into the depths of humility. Then go another league down. And then another. We are so superficial.

Christ ministered to the Jews who believe on his name for forty days. Then he told them not to leave until they were visited with the promise of the Father the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost. This experience which is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of what is unseen, is a covenant relationship with the Father through the name of Jesus Christ, which you must be fixed upon in your constant everyday walk and conversations with your self. You must think solemn and ponderously about the welfare of your soul.

When I did this I got up everyday and walked eight miles out to the ocean in Santa Monica, California. I stayed in my thoughts and purposefulness upon the Lord all the day long. As I walked I strove within to be charitable in my thoughts toward everyone. But disengaged. I was not seeking to make friends with the world. I was fixed upon a higher purpose. The practice of fending off the distractions of the real world is muscle building for faith unto salvation.

You walk in a constant state of prayer in your heart. You are longing to answer the end of your faith. Faith is supplied by the drawing influence of God as he will notice and pull you towards him like reeling in a big fish. Not that you are fighting God, heaven forbid. You simply have no clue what you are doing and how it is actually done.

I will coach people to stay as close to replicating my own experience as I possibly can. It is the model that I will insist upon and utilize. Man, if people lined up to attempt this we might get exceeding expert at it. LOL Zion arise shine!

I could make myself available to coach from near or far. I am not selling anything. I am a true apostle of Jesus Christ not a money-changer. We will have to wing it to some extent.

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Nightlion wrote:
Give me two months of undivided attention and discipline in the devoted pursuit of the knowledge of God and you will get astonishing substantive results if you are honest and not hypocrite in your intentions. Yeah, you would have to give it full time attention, not drive, not work, just you with your thoughts, but out in the real world and not isolated. You need to contrast your purposefulness against the real world, walk among the people, forgive, be charitable, want love to exist and rule in your heart, yielding the hope of you heart and will to the sovereignty of Jesus Christ. Taking his name upon you with full purpose of heart. This is the meekness of a broken heart and contrite spirit that desires a living relationship with God directly as promised of God and shed upon all those whom the Father has given unto Christ.
Christians let their lives go, as baptism if the sign of death, that they might be raised up new creatures in the love of God. And that of God and his power not the flattering words of deceitful moneychangers.


I think you might be surprised as to how many participating (or lurking) on this board have already done this. Results have almost certainly varied from person to person.
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Morley wrote:
Nightlion wrote:
Give me two months of undivided attention and discipline in the devoted pursuit of the knowledge of God and you will get astonishing substantive results if you are honest and not hypocrite in your intentions. Yeah, you would have to give it full time attention, not drive, not work, just you with your thoughts, but out in the real world and not isolated. You need to contrast your purposefulness against the real world, walk among the people, forgive, be charitable, want love to exist and rule in your heart, yielding the hope of you heart and will to the sovereignty of Jesus Christ. Taking his name upon you with full purpose of heart. This is the meekness of a broken heart and contrite spirit that desires a living relationship with God directly as promised of God and shed upon all those whom the Father has given unto Christ.
Christians let their lives go, as baptism if the sign of death, that they might be raised up new creatures in the love of God. And that of God and his power not the flattering words of deceitful moneychangers.


I think you might be surprised as to how many participating (or lurking) on this board have already done this. Results have almost certainly varied from person to person.


Yeah, ahem, well, ya know, not much evidence of it. Attempted perhaps to some extent and even to an extreme I bet. What I am suggesting is guidance that would be particular in making certain that one is actually being drawn to come unto Christ. Not drawn by your own desire but by God's purpose. Cause, em, ah, well, ya know, in forty years of searching with tears I have yet to come in contact with another who succeeded at it and got visited of God and got the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost. You just wont hide that sort of thing or go back a-fishin'. The gifts and powers of the Holy Ghost will manifest in varied ways but manifest to eclipse the run of the mill. I tell you that I would have noticed. There is no zeal to equal this event found among Mormons.

Perhaps they thought they were but watched TV just once in a while. Socialized with friends and family, or drove around town, or did some work. I bet few if any TOOK NO THOUGHT FOR THEIR LIVES as they sought first the kingdom of God. How long would such tend to stay on it without deviation? How many were indeed dead to the world seeking a new creation?

This is not taught in any class that I ever heard of. Every once in a while somebody writes a book that guesses at it. There is one guy in Australia or Austria whomever the dot com is [au] who has convinced me that he had the experience. If he is not just lying having heard it somewhere he would be the only other one. Trouble is he remains anonymous and that is very questionable behavior for a witness of Christ.

There is no such thing as the results might vary from person to person. It is not our work and our glory being done. The regeneration that is of God is the same. Men vary with God there is no variance or turning.

James 1: 17
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
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Nightlion wrote:
Buffalo wrote:
Actually, they probably happened do to spoiled bread, and the ergot hallucinogens contained in it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergotism#S ... ccusations


Everyone in academia and science have to produce something to justify money spent.


Every crank has to oppose legitimate science.
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Buffalo wrote:
Nightlion wrote:
Everyone in academia and science have to produce something to justify money spent.


Every crank has to oppose legitimate science.


Pfffffft!
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Nightlion wrote:.... There is no such thing as the results might vary from person to person. ....


You're dead wrong, my friend. Take care.
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Re: Loss of belief in a devil...

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Nightlion wrote:
Rambo wrote:I once thought to myself that if I can prove the devil exists then I can prove there is a God. Since God doesn't show himself and really doesn't do anything then maybe satan will show me. But then again maybe Satan knows my heart and if I find out he does exist then I would become a believer again. It's kind of hard to trick the devil.

On the mission I had a companion that was so scared of satan. He didn't even like mentioning his name cause he thought it would bring him into the world.


Give me two months of undivided attention and discipline in the devoted pursuit of the knowledge of God and you will get astonishing substantive results if you are honest and not hypocUrite in your intentions. Yeah, you would have to give it full time attention, not drive, not work, just you with your thoughts, but out in the real world and not isolated. You need to contrast your purposefulness against the real world, walk among the people, forgive, be charitable, want love to exist and rule in your heart, yielding the hope of you heart and will to the sovereignty of Jesus Christ. Taking his name upon you with full purpose of heart. This is the meekness of a broken heart and contrite spirit that desires a living relationship with God directly as promised of God and shed upon all those whom the Father has given unto Christ.
Christians let their lives go, as baptism if the sign of death, that they might be raised up new creatures in the love of God. And that of God and his power not the flattering words of deceitful moneychangers.


Nightlion, this kind of sounds like a brainwashing session. I'm in!!!
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