Jersey Girl wrote: What has material wealth got to do with anything?
Once upon a time it was thought to be quite a good argument in favor of the way the US did things. You don't remember? Oh well, there were always some problems in that position, of course ...
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Jersey Girl wrote: What has material wealth got to do with anything?
Once upon a time it was thought to be quite a good argument in favor of the way the US did things. You don't remember? Oh well, there were always some problems in that position, of course ...
No. Tell me what low marriage rates, gay rights, atheism and agnosticism have to do with the state of the freaking economy?
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Dan Smith, another alleged abuse victim, is reeling from the recent collapse of his marriage which he blames in part on the psychological effects of the molestation he says he suffered as a child – at the hands of his local parish priest.
“He would rape me and then say this is what God’s love feels like,” Smith said, struggling to hold back tears more than twenty years after the alleged incidents.
- VRDRC
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Jersey Girl wrote:Again, I am sure the problem lies with me.
What is the relevance of marriage rates, gay rights and a nearly atheistic/agnostic society and material wealth?
Is material wealth the almighty indicator of superiority? If the US abandon's it's religious bent, all of a sudden the US will gain material wealth?
What? What the hell?
What has material wealth got to do with anything?
Not seeing the connection, if there is one.
Occasionally you hear people use rhetoric that suggests that if gay marriage were allowed that society would start to come apart or suggest that without God there is no basis for morality.
So I think what he's suggesting is that they have allowed gay marriage, and stopped believing in God and they are still doing quite well.
Chap wrote:(If only Droopy was here in our hour of need to explain that living standards are much higher in Mississippi than they are in any Scandinavian country. If I recall rightly, that was one of his finest posts.)
Droopy would advocate that no where are the citizens more prosperous, content, and happy than those citizens of the humble state of South Carolina. South Carolina is the Shire if the Shire had Christianity and white people instead of hobbits and wizardry.
No one, not even the Droop, would claim Mississippi has better living standards than Scandinavia. Mississippi is slightly better than the living standards France and Germany though in Droopy's opinion based on years of intense study at worldnetdaily.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
MASH quotes I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it. I avoid church religiously. This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
DrW wrote:I have lived and worked in Europe for many years, and have spent a lot of time in Norway, Denmark and Sweden.
Herring today, cod tomorrow.
A penguin can dream ...
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Jersey Girl wrote: No. Tell me what low marriage rates, gay rights, atheism and agnosticism have to do with the state of the freaking economy?
It doesn't. Norway, Sweden and Finland have high domestic abuse rates. Many families are in bad shape in all three countries. And when one considers the poplulation of each society and the amount of abuse going on, we can say that if all were just small cities in the USA, they would be considered sick cities because of alcohol and domestic abuse.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Jersey Girl wrote: No. Tell me what low marriage rates, gay rights, atheism and agnosticism have to do with the state of the freaking economy?
It doesn't. Norway, Sweden and Finland have high domestic abuse rates. Many families are in bad shape in all three countries. And when one considers the poplulation of each society and the amount of abuse going on, we can say that if all were just small cities in the USA, they would be considered sick cities because of alcohol and domestic abuse.
why me,
Am I correct in thinking that a world organization for children published a study that showed, based on a significant number of metrics that Scandinavia was the best place in which to raise children? I seem to recall it covered, nutrition, saftey, wealth, education etc.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
