CONFUSED: Gay, active LDS, married with three kids.. WTF?

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Re: CONFUSED: Gay, active LDS, married with three kids.. WTF

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I would just like to add that being gay is special because not very many people in the general population get this wonderful opportunity to be born gay. What, 4% or a little more? It's really neat. I suppose being born straight is neat for straight people too, but it's not extra special like being gay. We are a select few that get to do things in a cool way that mother nature designed for only a small percentage of all the people born into this world.

I'm so Goddamn lucky! I thank my lucky stars that I was born gay. It's the best!! Thank you mother nature!

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Re: CONFUSED: Gay, active LDS, married with three kids.. WTF

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Fiannan wrote:
It has been found to be genetic. There is no chance about it. If genetic tests were possible I would be very uncomfortable with people choosing to abort embryos that are very likely to grow into individuals who have same sex attraction. That is because people with same sex attraction are normal human beings whose sexuality lies on the normal distribution of human sexuality.



Really? Please list the sources of the proof. I would be very interested in seeing them. And while I believe that genetics plays a huge factor in such things as intelligence I am not convinced there is a "heterosexual -- homosexual" gene expression.


Bill Bradshaw provides several references that will lead you to the literature. http://www.ldsresources.information/profession ... shaw.shtml
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Re: CONFUSED: Gay, active LDS, married with three kids.. WTF

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I have always held the belief that some boys like men and some boys like girls. However, only men who have sex with other men are homosexual. It is the engaging in sex and not the "liking" which is wrong.
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Re: CONFUSED: Gay, active LDS, married with three kids.. WTF

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How many more times will someone ask for references about homosexuality being linked to genetics in this thread?

There has been at least three posts with links to Bradshaw's research...and if that is not enough, do a damn google search. It's not hard to find. It's pretty well commonly accepted now in the scientific field that homosexuality DOES HAVE SOME genetic correlation. That is what the best science indicates at this time.

Deal with it.
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Re: CONFUSED: Gay, active LDS, married with three kids.. WTF

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Turns out Josh Weed is a therapist at a a counseling center called "Lifestar" in Washington state. http://www.lifestarwashington.com/staff.php (he's about halfway down the page)

Lifestar has been associated with reparative therapies for homosexuals. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exgaydisc ... sage/20289 (another Lifestar therapist listed about 1/10th down the page)

http://penitance.wordpress.com/2010/10/ ... /#more-304

So basically you have an allegedly extremely happy gay man married to a straight woman, whose employers offer reparative sexual reorientation therapies, in a state that is facing a voter referendum on marriage equality in November. It's a bit suspicious, so it may call into question the man's motivations for posting it.

All that aside, I do hope he and his wife are genuinely happy and that they can make it last. Many who try what they are doing don't last that long, and many others who do last that long still fall apart later down the road.
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Re: CONFUSED: Gay, active LDS, married with three kids.. WTF

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give him time.
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Re: CONFUSED: Gay, active LDS, married with three kids.. WTF

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He came out because he did not want to be outed by a client.
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