FAIR on "Controlling the Narrative."

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Re: FAIR on "Controlling the Narrative."

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As a bystander from northern Europe, I just want to say hats off to Dr Scrath.
I used to have respect for DCP but over the years I lost my faith in his honesty. The recent turn of events has been almost unbelivable. I now see DCP and his minions as a band of dishonest low lifes, with full control over the MDD board, and strong influence over FAIR.

A lot of people in my country use Fair as a support in answering faith related problems. Now many of them stand shocked watching the development, and the public unmasking of a notorius twister of truth.
I am sure many will rethink the "answers" they found at Fair, seeing some of the clowns in action that wrote/invented them.
About Joseph Smith.. How do you think his persona was influenced by being the storyteller since childhood? Mastering the art of going pale, changing his voice, and mesmerizing his audience.. How do you think he was influenced by keeping secrets and lying for his wife and the church members for decades?
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Kishkumen wrote:I have another question: why didn't Peterson give Dehlin advance warning of the article?

After all, John had done him the service of providing him a couple of hours time to state his views to the Mormon Stories audience.

I would think that advance warning and the opportunity to read the piece would have been a reasonable courtesy in that situation.


DCP doesn't seem to be conserned with hurting someones feelings.
Reading his various versions of what happened and seeing him twist like a snake in a trap makes me sick to the stomack.
About Joseph Smith.. How do you think his persona was influenced by being the storyteller since childhood? Mastering the art of going pale, changing his voice, and mesmerizing his audience.. How do you think he was influenced by keeping secrets and lying for his wife and the church members for decades?
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Uther wrote:As a bystander from northern Europe, I just want to say hats off to Dr Scrath.
I used to have respect for DCP but over the years I lost my faith in his honesty. The recent turn of events has been almost unbelivable. I now see DCP and his minions as a band of dishonest low lifes, with full control over the MDD board, and strong influence over FAIR.

A lot of people in my country use Fair as a support in answering faith related problems. Now many of them stand shocked watching the development, and the public unmasking of a notorius twister of truth.
I am sure many will rethink the "answers" they found at Fair, seeing some of the clowns in action that wrote/invented them.

The TBMs in your locale, in northern Europe, sound much more interested in the problem issues of Mormonism and the apologetic defense against criticisms based on those problems than I would venture the TBMs in my locale are.
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. At that time FARMS was a private foundation that served as a “clearinghouse” for cutting-edge research on the Book of Mormon. It also published works of an apologetic nature, typically reviews of books and other materials that were critical of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.


Whatever happened to the "cutting edge research" part? When did the vast amount of emphasis become on apologetics?
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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harmony wrote:Whatever happened to the "cutting edge research" part? When did the vast amount of emphasis become on apologetics?


Who was the guy they sent to teach seminary in Italy (nice villa and all)?

i.e. what does one do when cutting edge research backfires?
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Instead of speculating what actually happened, wouldn't it be more productive to circle the wagons, let the wound from losing The Ring heal and then regrouping into the Council of the FAIR Fifty? Operating outside the Maxwell building would allow the Council more perimeter distance when bombarding the enemy. Let those with squeamish religious codes of decorum remain in their Ivory Towers, while the faith is expediently defended by any means necessary.
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Actually, I see this whole event as a chance for Dr. Peterson to put on a much lighter suit of armor, embrace the generativity that comes with age, and be an outstanding "ambassador without a sword" for the Church. He has been given so many gifts and now he has the opportunity to try all of them out.
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moksha wrote:Actually, I see this whole event as a chance for Dr. Peterson to put on a much lighter suit of armor, embrace the generativity that comes with age, and be an outstanding "ambassador without a sword" for the Church. He has been given so many gifts and now he has the opportunity to try all of them out.


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And if Dan was smart he would become this ambassador. However, based on Dan's inability to ever be wrong and his need to defend himself against all, I fear he will not be willing to lay down that sword.
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MCB wrote:
Naturally, critics of the restored gospel have been dancing in the streets over this news.
Any restoration of any gospel, once cast in stone, becomes a whitewashed sepulchure.

But a lack of institutions and perpetual change has its limitations too.

Moderation in all things, including moderation.
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Uther wrote:DCP doesn't seem to be conserned with hurting someones feelings.
Reading his various versions of what happened and seeing him twist like a snake in a trap makes me sick to the stomack.


Listen up and I'll explain something. People like DCP don't understand their life's actions until it's too late and they have lost everything. He is not there yet. But the SOB is going to take a hit because he has offended many people and the offenses will come back to burn his ass. The sorry bastard will feel a lot of pain. What comes around goes around. He might as well take off his tie and white shirt and throw his Goddamn TR in the trash. None of that can help him now.

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