Just read the 100-page hit piece on Dehlin . . .

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Re: Just read the 100-page hit piece on Dehlin . . .

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Bill Hamblin concurs in the comments, lashing out unhelpfully against "anonymous" and "apostate slander." To my knowledge, neither I nor Loyd are anonymous nor "apostates." My source is anonymous, of course, but not an "apostate."


Anyone assisting Mr. Dehlin in his work of destruction regarding NAMI is, as far as I'm concerned, while perhaps not an "apostate," in the normative sense, a "useful idiot" of a public, active apostate (in all but official removal of name) and critic of the Church qua Church who doesn't want his personal agenda and claimed beliefs to come under the disinfecting light of critical analysis.

I quite understand his fears in this regard, given what I've seen of his project thus far.
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Re: Just read the 100-page hit piece on Dehlin . . .

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Did Droopy just include himself among the people who have reputations to protect?

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Re: Just read the 100-page hit piece on Dehlin . . .

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So according to Loran Blood, General Authority President Samuelson is a useful idiot.

My my my. Just how far he's willing to go to get some brownie points from Dan and his lying ilk.
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Re: Just read the 100-page hit piece on Dehlin . . .

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Dan is now shifting gears as usual.

I have absolutely no reason to believe that any General Authority had seen or read the paper in question, whether in whole or in part. It may be that one has, but I’ve heard nothing to that effect, and I frankly don’t know how a copy would have reached any of the Brethren.


Notice the sudden shift in position. Where he and Hamblin initially asserted on multiple occasions, with bombastic certitude, that neither of these men had read the piece, now he says he has no reason to believe they had, but maybe they did.

Where he once said Maxwell "leaks like a sieve," now he claims he has no reason to believe anyone could have received a copy of Smith's review. This, even after Hamblin said he had a copy weeks ago and was thinking about posting it. This, after numerous people had informed Dehlin that they had read portions of it. So which is it Dan, does Maxwell "leak like a sieve" of does it not?

And while you're obviously reading these threads and writing up responses on your blog, why don't you go ahead and address the fact that you lied to us about receiving money for your apologetic duties at Maxwell. Haven't quite figured out a way to wriggle yourself out of that one, eh?

MsJack and the narrator are infinitely more credible than you and Bill will ever be.
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Virtually everything that comes out of Droopy's mouth is a non sequitur. His brain doesn't know how to produce anything else. For him it is all about loyalty to his Danite pals. Truth has nothing to do with it.


Yes, the Danites...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4
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I have absolutely no reason to believe that any General Authority had seen or read the paper in question, whether in whole or in part. It may be that one has, but I’ve heard nothing to that effect, and I frankly don’t know how a copy would have reached any of the Brethren.


The very idea is preposterous on its face. This game is not going to work, just as none of the other adolescent games played by the inmates of this intellectual and moral reptile house have ever worked.

Kevin Graham, now a raving, narcissistic madman dedicated solely to the personal ad hominem vilification and destruction of anyone and anyone who finds fault with his fantastic calumnies and gangreneish "scholarship," and having apparently no life worth living outside of his own project of publicly defaming, soiling, and defecating on the Church, its teachings, and its people, provides us with another eye-bulging foray into the churning cauldron that is what's left of his mind.

The Wreck of the Kevin Fitzgraham.

The legend lives on.
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Re: Just read the 100-page hit piece on Dehlin . . .

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Droopy wrote:Kevin Graham, now a raving, narcissistic madman dedicated solely to the personal ad hominem vilification and destruction of anyone and anyone who finds fault with his fantastic calumnies and gangreneish "scholarship," and having apparently no life worth living outside of his own project of publicly defaming, soiling, and defecating on the Church, its teachings, and its people, provides us with another eye-bulging foray into the churning cauldron that is what's left of his mind.


What you're saying about Kevin can be proven to be empirically wrong, opening you up to a libel lawsuit. Is that what you want, Droopy? You've already shown that you approve of using legal threats in an effort to shut people up.

It must be nice to sit around day after day, ruminating on the various ways you might get revenge, with no need to go out and earn a paycheck.
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What you're saying about Kevin can be proven to be empirically wrong,


No, it can't, unless he's a victim of an organic mental illness, which he's not. He's still a raving, narcissistic madman, which I could prove by mining the archives of MDD and this forum over the last several years, but my opinion of Graham - and opinion's are not actionable - is that he's unhinged, that is, he's a very wicked, destructive, and toxic person, but not insane.

In the normative sense of the word.

This won't help you, Scratch. You've made clear, empirical claims about my past - not my internal mental states - that are either true or not.

And, you claim to have received it from someone on this board who has intimate knowledge of my life since at least 16 years of age.

Let's bring that out into the open.

You've already shown that you approve of using legal threats in an effort to shut people up.


Oh yes, to shut people up you are lying about actual, historical events or conditions for the purpose of pubic defamation. Yes, in that case, I would seriously consider it. Otherwise, you can call me every name in the book. I could care less.

It must be nice to sit around day after day, ruminating on the various ways you might get revenge, with no need to go out and earn a paycheck.


It must be even nicer to throw bowling balls at passing cars from an overpass and then run away and hide when you see the impact. It must also be nice to lie and fabricate with impunity behind your screen name about people who are not protected by such.
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Re: Just read the 100-page hit piece on Dehlin . . .

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Droopy wrote:... you are lying about actual, historical events or conditions for the purpose of pubic defamation...


Please can someone post a link to where this happened?
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Kevin Graham wrote:So according to Loran Blood, General Authority President Samuelson is a useful idiot.


CFR that Samuelson has ever seen Smith's piece, or, if he has, that he would have ever taken the position on it Dehlin and his sycophants claim.
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