WTF? Now Mormons Believe in the Trinity?

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_cafe crema
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Re: WTF? Now Mormons Believe in the Trinity?

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Boilermaker wrote:
café crema wrote:DCP presented the same thing in a DN article a couple of years ago.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700065755/Daniel-C-Peterson-Mormons-and-the-Holy-Trinity.html?pg=all

This is not trying to impress or fool someone, it is lying plain and simple, and it is intended to lead people to believe that LDS and the rest of Christianity believe the same things.


I actually believe that Peterson is truthfully relating what Mormons believe with regards to the Godhead. All the term Trinity means is three persons who are completely one while also being three. The term Trinity has gone out of favor with modern Mormons, but it certainly was a term used in the 19th and early 20th century by Mormons to describe the Godhead. Mormons seem confused when it comes to what the term substance means in traditional Christianity -- it certainly has nothing to do with anything physical. Mormons say three beings when in reality they are using it the same way that traditional Christians say three persons. The traditional Christian complains that Mormons believe Heavenly Father has a physical body, but that has little to do with the point of the Nicene Creed which was meant to convey the belief that Jesus was always God in the same way the Father was always God -- it has nothing to do with whether or not the members of the Godhead have bodies. The Nicene Creed is discussing a spiritual reality, not a physical reality.


The lie is in the description of what non-LDS believe. He is lying in this article.
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Re: WTF? Now Mormons Believe in the Trinity?

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café crema wrote:

The lie is in the description of what non-LDS believe. He is lying in this article.


If you are talking about the social Trinity, that is indeed heresy to many orthodox Christians, but it has been embraced by several liberal theologians.
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Re: WTF? Now Mormons Believe in the Trinity?

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I would say the Book of Mormon and Creedal Christianity say three separate and distinct persons represent the One God 1X1X1=1

while Joseph Smith and the Mormon Faith say three gods, three persons 1+1+1=3

Joseph Smith said the Trinity is three gods.
"I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods," (Teachings of Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370).

Plurality of Gods
See ADAM-GOD THEORY, Christ, FALSE GODS, FATHER IN HEAVEN, GODHEAD, GODHOOD, HOLY GHOST, POLYTHEISM. Three separate personages — Father, Son, and Holy Ghost — comprise the Godhead. As each of these persons is a God, it is evident, from this standpoint alone, that a plurality of Gods exists. To us, speaking in the proper finite sense, these three are the only Gods we worship. But in addition there is an infinite number of holy personages, drawn from worlds without number, who have passed on to exaltation and are thus gods.
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