Chapter 13, Book of Revelation: key to our future

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Re: Chapter 13, Book of Revelation: key to our future

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The1Guy wrote:And why will a vast majority of Mormons be caught up in that lake of Fire and Brimstone and its aftermath?

They won't, because this is all BS.
(By the way, Brimstone is Sulfur and radioactive Sulfur-35 was detected in California's air in increased quantities after the Fukushima Dalichi meltdown in Japan.

Quite a few radioactive isotopes are released by various kinds of nuclear accidents. That you were able to see a "hit" for the Book of Revelation by cherrypicking one particular isotope from the whole list of isotopes released, means exactly jack crap. So, an isotope of sulfur is released in one type of nuclear incident, and sulfur is brimstone, and brimstone shows up in the Book of Revelation, so that must mean the Book of Revelation is truly prophesying about the end times. Of course, the fact that isotopes of cesium, cerium, iodine, potassium, antimony, europium, strontium, plutonium, curium, americium, and some other elements are also released, but don't show up in the book of Revelation, means nothing about the Bible's truth status, right? But out of the whole list of radioactive elements released, if one finds a match in the Book of Revelation, that's important, right?
It is part of the aftermath of a nuclear reaction in sea water [or the Great Salt Lake?] and affects virtually every part of the human body.) If we had a global nuclear war, Sulfur-35 would be a part of the mix exploding in sea water around the world. Read the ebook: THE THIN WALL OF HELL and we can talk about it.

No thanks.
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Quite a few radioactive isotopes are released by various kinds of nuclear accidents. That you were able to see a "hit" for the Book of Revelation by cherrypicking one particular isotope from the whole list of isotopes released, means exactly jack s***. So, an isotope of sulfur is released in one type of nuclear incident, and sulfur is brimstone, and brimstone shows up in the Book of Revelation, so that must mean the Book of Revelation is truly prophesying about the end times. Of course, the fact that isotopes of cesium, cerium, iodine, potassium, antimony, europium, strontium, plutonium, curium, americium, and some other elements are also released, but don't show up in the book of Revelation, means nothing about the Bible's truth status, right? But out of the whole list of radioactive elements released, if one finds a match in the Book of Revelation, that's important, right?


Pardon me, I didn't realize they had the Periodic Table with all of its sophistication during John's day. I merely referenced what they obviously knew at that time. Of course, sulphur and hydrogen sulphide with it's putrid rotten-egg smell was undoubtedly known to the ancients but they just didn't realize all of the complexities.
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The1Guy wrote:Of course, sulphur and hydrogen sulphide with it's putrid rotten-egg smell was undoubtedly known to the ancients...
Could be. But they sure as hell knew who Nero was. ;)

(I trust you aren't planning your own sort of gunpowder plot, but the fact that you take pains to identify yourself with Guy Fawkes is just the tiniest bit unsettling.)
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Bret Ripley wrote:[quote=

(I trust you aren't planning your own sort of gunpowder plot, but the fact that you take pains to identify yourself with Guy Fawkes is just the tiniest bit unsettling.)


On behalf of his people, Guy Fawkes was fighting against tyranny and oppression just like our founding fathers. He was caught and hanged which is what would have happen to the signers of the Declaration of Independence had they been caught before they won. I'm proud of old Guy for standing up just as I am of the founding fathers.
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The1Guy wrote:
Bret Ripley wrote:[quote=

(I trust you aren't planning your own sort of gunpowder plot, but the fact that you take pains to identify yourself with Guy Fawkes is just the tiniest bit unsettling.)


On behalf of his people, Guy Fawkes was fighting against tyranny and oppression just like our founding fathers. He was caught and hanged which is what would have happen to the signers of the Declaration of Independence had they been caught before they won. I'm proud of old Guy for standing up just as I am of the founding fathers.


Timothy McVeigh expressed similar sentiments.

Look, I'm as committed to the idea of the right to revolution as much as anyone. However, all political avenues must be explored first. Bloodshed must always be the last resort -- even when fighting real -- as opposed to the faux tyranny the extreme right tries to hoist upon Obama -- tyranny.
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sethpayne wrote:Timothy McVeigh expressed similar sentiments.
And then there's this Guy: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/nyregion/arrest-in-plot-to-blow-up-federal-reserve-bank.html?smid=pl-share
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So, the thread starts off with the Book of Revelation as the key to our future, and now we're talking Tim McVeigh, Guy Fawkes, and citizens revolting against tyranny?

Yeah, no thanks. I've had my fill of crazy. And this kind of crap is definitely that - Bat. crap. Crazy.
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Sethbag wrote:Yeah, no thanks. I've had my fill of crazy. And this kind of crap is definitely that - Bat. s***. Crazy.


I refer you to the second post in this thread, wherein I said, "I don't feel like inviting more crazy into my life."

Clearly I was right.
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sethpayne wrote:Look, I'm as committed to the idea of the right to revolution as much as anyone. However, all political avenues must be explored first. Bloodshed must always be the last resort -- even when fighting real -- as opposed to the faux tyranny the extreme right tries to hoist upon Obama -- tyranny.


I totally agree.
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Re: Chapter 13, Book of Revelation: key to our future

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The1Guy wrote:
Bret Ripley wrote:[quote=

(I trust you aren't planning your own sort of gunpowder plot, but the fact that you take pains to identify yourself with Guy Fawkes is just the tiniest bit unsettling.)


On behalf of his people, Guy Fawkes was fighting against tyranny and oppression just like our founding fathers. He was caught and hanged which is what would have happen to the signers of the Declaration of Independence had they been caught before they won. I'm proud of old Guy for standing up just as I am of the founding fathers.


Guy Fawkes laid a plot that would have had an equivalent effect on early 17th century England to blowing up the Capitol on the day of the State of the Union Address at the height of the cold war: the complete decapitation of the English state, through the murder of all its leading figures from the King down to all the members of Parliament and the leading clergy.

The total national panic that must have ensued would have probably have been followed by a successful Spanish invasion, and the re-imposition of the Roman Catholic faith by force on a population that was by then in the great majority Protestant.

The1Guy is profoundly ignorant of history.
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