Paying tithing online....SLC having a change of heart

[_cwald]

Who should be attending their daughters temple wedding...the middle class man who works his ass off 40-60 hours a week, but can't make ends meet so he is not a 100% tithe payer...or the guy who wont work, lives in his mom's basement, mooching off the government and the Bishop's storehouse, but declares to be a full tithe payer?

God this had become a retarded thread.

[_RayAgostini]

Who should be attending their daughters temple wedding...the middle class man who works his ass off 40-60 hours a week, but can't make ends meet so he is not a 100% tithe payer...or the guy who wont work, lives in his mom's basement, mooching off the government and the Bishop's storehouse, but declares to be a full tithe payer?

God this had become a r******* thread.

Maybe you should ask Jesus that question:

Matthew 20:1-16

The kingdom of heaven is like to an householder, who went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. And having agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard. And going about the third hour, he saw others standing in the market place idle. And he said to them: Go you also into my vineyard, and I will give you what shall be just. And they went their way. And again he went out about the sixth and the ninth hour, and did in like manner.

But about the eleventh hour he went out and found others standing, and he saith to them: Why stand you here all the day idle? They say to him: Because no man hath hired us. He saith to them: Go you also into my vineyard. And when evening was come, the lord of the vineyard saith to his steward: Call the labourers and pay them their hire, beginning from the last even to the first. When therefore they were come, that came about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny. But when the first also came, they thought that they should receive more: and they also received every man a penny.

And receiving it they murmured against the master of the house, Saying: These last have worked but one hour, and thou hast made them equal to us, that have borne the burden of the day and the heats. But he answering said to one of them: Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst thou not agree with me for a penny? Take what is thine, and go thy way: I will also give to this last even as to thee. Or, is it not lawful for me to do what I will? is thy eye evil, because I am good? So shall the last be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen.

[_Themis]

So I guess, if you can't afford to pay tithing, but want to see your daughter married or confirm your boy, you should just QUIT your job...than your exaltation will be ensured.

Although every organization needs money, I think they go overboard with it with things like the TR, especially since 10% is way to high in a church that has a local unpaid ministry. There is a reason the church is so well off compared to other church's.

[_Themis]

Who should be attending their daughters temple wedding...the middle class man who works his ass off 40-60 hours a week, but can't make ends meet so he is not a 100% tithe payer...or the guy who wont work, lives in his mom's basement, mooching off the government and the Bishop's storehouse, but declares to be a full tithe payer?

Both.

[_Racer]

No more paying a tithe without the local bishop knowing how much you donate each year.

You're obviously not ready to live the Law of Consecration.

BC, Are you ready to live the Law of Consecration? Isn't the LoC a little too Socialist for your Conservative leanings?

[_cwald]

BC, Are you ready to live the Law of Consecration? Isn't the LoC a little too Socialist for your Conservative leanings?

My thought exactly.

RAY, please tell me you are joking?

[_cwald]

Who should be attending their daughters temple wedding...the middle class man who works his ass off 40-60 hours a week, but can't make ends meet so he is not a 100% tithe payer...or the guy who wont work, lives in his mom's basement, mooching off the government and the Bishop's storehouse, but declares to be a full tithe payer?

Both.

Yet in the Mormon church, according to pahorans argument, and church policy, who gets to see their daughter married in the temple.

[_RayAgostini]

RAY, please tell me you are joking?

What do you expect a bishop to say if a member asks, "I couldn't pay a full tithe because I'm struggling financially, but can I have a recommend anyway?"

Agreements are agreements, and rules are rules. If you bend the rules for one or two, then you have to bend them for everyone, and then no one plays by the rules anymore.

See the problem?

[_Eric]

rules are rules...See the problem?

Not at all, at least from a "Christian" perspective.

One who breaks an unjust law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law. - MLK

[_Cicero]

Call me an idealist, but I find the idea of calling yourself a full tithe payer while paying $1.00 online so your bishop can't track it distasteful.

The rule that the Church really should change (in the US) is the rule against having "mainstream" wedding ceremonies on the same day as a temple sealing. In countries where temple marriages are not civilly recognized (the UK for example), members have been having weddings and sealings on the same day for decades now.