LDS get there talking points from Satan

[_Mittens]

Um, or maybe - and I'm just spitballing here - the evidence points to Mittens being unable to win an argument or even sustain a point?!?

Do think by saying that enough it will be true ?

[_Tobin]

Um, or maybe - and I'm just spitballing here - the evidence points to Mittens being unable to win an argument or even sustain a point?!?

Do think by saying that enough it will be true ?

I said it and it also happens to be true. Your idea the LDS get their (NOT there) talking points from Satan is pure lunacy, as are all your other posts. You just spew links on the forum and can't defend a single thing you've ever stated on here PERIOD!

[_Mittens]

This link proves Mormons get there talking points from Satan

http://www.mormonoutreach.org/occult-sy ... lained.php

all the symbols on the LDS temple come from Satan

[_SteelHead]

Link proves nothing. All of those symbols were associated with Christianity well before they were associated with neo paganism.

[_Mittens]

Link proves nothing. All of those symbols were associated with Christianity well before they were associated with neo paganism.

Prove that !! The Sun god or Baal symbol comes from Old Testament

http://youtu.be/7zR9xCGRMr8

[_SteelHead]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monstrance



When Christians use, wear, exhibit (whatever manifestation) the cross are they involved in paganism and the occult? As the cross was used by various other religions before Christianity existed.

Cross = pagan

http://www.albatrus.org/english/religio ... _cross.htm

Christian fish symbol = pagan.

http://www.albatrus.org/english/religio ... symbol.htm

truth be told it is hard to find any prominent nature theme that hasn't been used as a religious symbol by somebody in the past.

By your logic any fish or cross wearing/displaying christian person/institution gets its marching orders from satan.

[_Brackite]

an example of man made religion

Joseph Smith said the Trinity is three gods.

"I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods," (Teachings of Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370)

completely contridicting Jesus who said the greatest command is the Shema:

Mark 12:
28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

The Book of Mormon teaches the Doctrine of the Trinity. The Following Passages are from the Book of Mormon:

2 Nephi 31:

[21] And now, behold, my beloved brethren, this is the way; and there is none other way nor name given under heaven whereby man can be saved in the kingdom of God. And now, behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end. Amen.

Alma 11:

[44] Now, this restoration shall come to all, both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, both the wicked and the righteous; and even there shall not so much as a hair of their heads be lost; but every thing shall be restored to its perfect frame, as it is now, or in the body, and shall be brought and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one Eternal God, to be judged according to their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil.

Mormon 7:

[7] And he hath brought to pass the redemption of the world, whereby he that is found guiltless before him at the judgment day hath it given unto him to dwell in the presence of God in his kingdom, to sing ceaseless praises with the choirs above, unto the Father, and unto the Son, and unto the Holy Ghost, which are one God, in a state of happiness which hath no end.

Just a Quick Note here: Mormon Chapter seven, verse seven from the 1830 edition from the Book of Mormon states, "which is one God," instead of "which are one God," in the modern edition of the Book of Mormon.

Link: http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/bom1830/Mormon.shtml

[_Mittens]

Since the trinity teaches three separate and distinct persons represent the ONE GOD just like Jesus said in Mark 12:28

28 Then one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, perceiving that He had answered them well, asked Him, “Which is the first commandment of all?”

29 Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’[e] This is the first commandment. 31 And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

Mormons on the other hand abandon Jesus and Book of Mormon and say


Joseph Smith said the Trinity is three gods.

"I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods," (Teachings of Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370)

[_Chap]

Joseph Smith said the Trinity is three gods.

The Book of Mormon teaches the Doctrine of the Trinity.

There is nothing stopping both of those statements being true at the same time.

One of the strangest things in the early history of Mormonism is the almost complete failure of Joseph Smith to make use of the Book of Mormon in his preaching and teaching.

[_Mittens]

Joseph Smith said the Trinity is three gods.

The Book of Mormon teaches the Doctrine of the Trinity.

There is nothing stopping both of those statements being true at the same time.

One of the strangest things in the early history of Mormonism is the almost complete failure of Joseph Smith to make use of the Book of Mormon in his preaching and teaching.

Actually you are wrong since the Trinity says there's only ONE GOD


When we have said these three things, then—that there is but one God, that the Father and the Son and the Spirit is each a distinct person—we have enunciated the doctrine of the Trinity in its completeness.
We may condense this into a somewhat shorter statement, one which is more precise: In the nature of the God, there are three distinct persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit ( or substance ) of the one true God, there are three distinct persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit p 24

“The Nicene Creed, then, with centuries of theological discussion and controversy behind it, still teaches of the Trinity as the New Testament does: that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, while distinct from each other personally, are the same God” p 153


It is this relation of Christ to the Father and the Spirit which Dr John Robinson takes as one of the strong-est indications of triunity in the Godhead:
At the Incarnation… the Godhead is revealed for the first time as existing in three distinct relationships. It is these differences of relation that make necessary a doctrine of the Trinity, not differences of “character” or modes working. The Old Testament, too knew God in different “characters” but it was not forced to a Trinity Theology…We cannot begin with God creating, God redeeming, God sanctifying, or any such collection of attributes, and proceed to identify these with Father, Son, and Holy Spirit…Rather, one must start with the three Persons, no more and no less, which are required by the three relations at the Incarnation
When we have said these three things, then---that there is but one God, that the Father and the son and the spirit is each God, that the Father and the Son and the Spirit is each a distinct person---We have enunciated the doctrine of the Trinity in its completeness.
God in Three Persons
Page 40

Perhaps the most famous Trinitarian reference from the second century is the statement of Theophilus [ 116-181], another writer who is only shortly removed from the last of the apostles. His is the first use of the word “trinity” in Christian literature which is extant:
In like manner also the three days which were before the luminaries, are types of the Trinity, of God, and His Word, and His Wisdoms.” Vol 2 pp 100 101 Epistles to Autolycus,II WV
Page 53

The concept of Trinity in unity, three distinct persons who are the one God, is then firmly entrenched in Christian thought by the middle to second century
Page 54

Thus the connection of the Father in the Son, and of the Son in the Paraclete, produces three Co-herent Persons, who are yet distinct One from Another. These Three are one essence, not one Person, as it is said, “ I and my Father are One “ in respect of unity of substance, not singularity of number. Roberts and Donaldson, anti-Nicene Fathers Vol. 3, p. 621, against Praxeas, xxv

Page 57 God in three Persons

Conclusion
The New Testament teaches us that there is one God and that this God is three distinct persons, the Father the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and that these persons are co-equal and co-eternal. This is also the only possible interpretation of the Nicene Creed as it was intended by its authors. Therefore, the doctrine of the Trinity as taught in the Nicene Creed is an accurate representation of the teachings of the New Testament” pp 155-156
E. Calvin Beisner