Skousen's Introduction to Book of Mormon

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Re: Skousen's Introduction to Book of Mormon

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This thread is just Mental flatulating his own wishful thinking. Notice in the intro that Skousen doesn't mention HOW Smith produced the Book of Mormon. By claiming to read glowing letters on a peepstone.
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grindael wrote:This thread is just Mental flatulating his own wishful thinking. Notice in the intro that Skousen doesn't mention HOW Smith produced the Book of Mormon. By claiming to read glowing letters on a peepstone.


Crickets and deflection in response my question(s).

Come on. It REALLY shouldn't be that hard. It is rather a simple request.

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Re: Skousen's Introduction to Book of Mormon

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mentalgymnast wrote:
Maksutov wrote:
So you're too lazy to do any reading yourself. But we're supposed to read every insipid Mopologist that you think worthy of note. No.


Crickets. Deflection.

MG


Lazy. And lying. You've been responded to.
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Maksutov wrote:You've been responded to.


Nope.

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Re: Skousen's Introduction to Book of Mormon

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mentalgymnast wrote:I have a question. Could you point me towards any books written by academics that would cause me to consider the writings of these men to be in any way comparable to the Book of Mormon? Say, someone along the line of a Terryl Givens or a Grant Hardy? I would be interested in reading any books that you could recommend that would show that the complexity/narrative of those 'holy writings' are in the same class as the Book of Mormon.

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Asked and answered. :wink:
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Re: Skousen's Introduction to Book of Mormon

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mentalgymnast wrote:I have a question. Could you point me towards any books written by academics that would cause me to consider the writings of these men to be in any way comparable to the Book of Mormon? Say, someone along the line of a Terryl Givens or a Grant Hardy? I would be interested in reading any books that you could recommend that would show that the complexity/narrative of those 'holy writings' are in the same class as the Book of Mormon.

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MG

Here we go...

Oh brother, a real academic isn't going to bother evaluating the "class" that various religious texts belong in. Doing such a thing would be similar to a real academic writing about whether the tooth fairy or the Easter bunny travel at comparable speeds. It makes no sense for anyone to opine on that and they have no objective basis on which to do so on texts that are obviously false on fist look.

And do you *seriously* not see that you are engaging in textbook special pleading here?
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mentalgymnast wrote:This thread was started by me. I've asked a question that I would like to have answered. I will be HAPPY to go another direction when and after I am not hearing crickets in response to the question(s) I've asked.

So put this one on hold...we can come back to it. OK?

I open to your contribution to the question I'm asking of others. I think I've asked it in a couple of different forms/ways so far. Take a stab at it?

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It's not another direction. It is your own argument mirrored back on you from the point of view of a Muslim.

I await your response that will surely be another exercise in special pleading.
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Could you point me towards any books written by academics that would cause me to consider the writings of these men to be in any way comparable to the Book of Mormon? Say, someone along the line of a Terryl Givens or a Grant Hardy?


This is a stupid question. No one would write such a book. The Book of Mormon is too ridiculous for any credible academic to waste time on, except for Mormons.
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Re: Skousen's Introduction to Book of Mormon

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fetchface wrote:
mentalgymnast wrote:This thread was started by me. I've asked a question that I would like to have answered. I will be HAPPY to go another direction when and after I am not hearing crickets in response to the question(s) I've asked.

So put this one on hold...we can come back to it. OK?

I open to your contribution to the question I'm asking of others. I think I've asked it in a couple of different forms/ways so far. Take a stab at it?

Regards,
MG

It's not another direction. It is your own argument mirrored back on you from the point of view of a Muslim.

I await your response that will surely be another exercise in special pleading.


It will not be the response that he likes, therefore it will not be recognized.

All Royal Skousen needs to do is convince Philip Jenkins. Good luck.

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Re: Skousen's Introduction to Book of Mormon

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I remember church leaders on many occasions getting on members for not reading the Book of Mormon. Funny that Joseph Smith didn't focus on it after he supposedly translated it. No one had to do that with LOTR. LOTR has a bigger fan base, and one can even see a bit of a religious following by some. People have actually learned Elven. What if Tolkien has tried to present it as fact and get a religious following like Joseph Smith or L Ron Hubbard. I can't help but think there might be 10's of millions of people who can speak elven. :eek:
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