Patheos was purchased by the Mormon Church

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Philo Sofee wrote:
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I'll just note that Dan has not posted any blogs of substance since this thread started. All recycled old content.
It has been that way for a quite long time. I am still of the opinion that he has been muzzled. Somehow he is strapped from doing his thing and he is trying to make the best of it...
And it seems he's being careful not to repost blog entries containing his plagiarism, at least none that i've seen. He used to repost many of those once or more a year. That cuts his available content down considerably.
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https://www.deseretmanagement.com/ -> https://www.bonnevillecommunications.com/ -> https://www.radiant.org/ -> https://www.patheos.com/

The Radiant Foundation was Bn Media Associates, Llc. RF owns Patheos.

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https://www.google.com/search?q=%22radi ... s-wiz-serp

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It seems patheos was acquired by bn media associates, llc in 2021 Bn media is doing business under the name Radiant. Which has 2 business locations, Virginia and you guessed it Slc, utah.

Not only that, the address is for Bonneville international corporation. 55 north 300 west, suite 700 salt lake city, ut 84180

Details for address from https://www.radiantdigital.com/contact-us

So it looks like it.
So, it looks like RF operates out of VA, but is owned by Bonneville which is ran out of SLC.

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From Dan’s blog:
Now, though, a friend (who was writing on a totally different topic and, so far as I’m aware, is completely unaware of the alleged clandestine corporate shell game identified over at the Obsession Board,[sic] has mentioned to me in passing that, back in September 2016, Patheos was purchased by Beliefnet, which, he says, is a firm belonging to Evangelical Protestants. So not to Latter-day Saints. Now, I have no idea which of these scenarios, if either of them, is actually true. And, to be perfectly candid, I don’t much care.
You know. For a guy who says he doesn’t care about this board, or whatever topic he says he doesn't care about, he sure does post a lot about the things he doesn’t care about.

Anyway.

His “friend” is an idiot, and has made Dan look like an idiot. And Dan posted it for the world to see. Not that he cares. :roll:

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His “friend” is an idiot, and has made Dan look like an idiot. And Dan posted it for the world to see. Not that he cares. :roll:
It would be no surprise whatsoever if that friend was Lou Midgley. :D
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:08 pm
https://www.deseretmanagement.com/ -> https://www.bonnevillecommunications.com/ -> https://www.radiant.org/ -> https://www.patheos.com/

The Radiant Foundation was Bn Media Associates, Llc. RF owns Patheos.

Extra Google link with pictures for the Conservatives:

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22radi ... s-wiz-serp

A comment from Reddit:
/u/oatmealreasoncookie

It seems patheos was acquired by bn media associates, llc in 2021 Bn media is doing business under the name Radiant. Which has 2 business locations, Virginia and you guessed it Slc, utah.

Not only that, the address is for Bonneville international corporation. 55 north 300 west, suite 700 salt lake city, ut 84180

Details for address from https://www.radiantdigital.com/contact-us

So it looks like it.
So, it looks like RF operates out of Virginia, but is owned by Bonneville which is ran out of SLC.

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The web pages have been revised since I last looked this. There appear to be two "Radiant" entities, and it's not clear how they relate to each other. Patheos is owned by Radiant Digital https://www.radiantdigital.com Radiant Digital is owned by Bonneville Communications, which is owned by Deseret Management Corporation. (Bonneville International is a separate company that is also owned by Deseret Management. It owns broadcast media.) https://www.deseretmanagement.com Deseret Management also lists the Radiant Foundation as one of its companies. The website for the Radiant Foundation makes no reference to Patheos or the other websites owned by Radiant Digital. I'm guessing the Foundation is non-profit and Digital is a for-profit company. They share the common brand name "Radiant."
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They use the same logos and font; I suspect they’re connected, but yeah, thanks for the little bit of tidying up ref the information I posted. Regardless, the LDS church owns Patheos via its for-profit entities.

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The SLC address is Bonneville’s HQ, I think.

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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:48 pm
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I’m not sure Mehta had an accurate understanding of the actual ownership history in his interview, so it’s hard to say. Keep in mind these are for profit companies, so at some level, it’s about money. It looks to me like somebody or somebodies wanted to create a portfolio of companies that presented a uniformly positive view of religion/spirituality. That’s what Radiant Digital is today. To do that required a couple of things — stay away from politics because of its divisive nature, especially today, and refrain from criticizing religion in general/avoid interfaith squabbling. And that’s what the Patheos bloggers say they were pressured to do.

Keep in mind that I still haven’t shown evidence that the church or any of its for Profit entities has an ownership interest somewhere in Patheos’s ownership chain. I haven’t found who owns Radiant or even how it is organized. And that’s very common in building portfolios of companies that are financial investments for private equity companies — tracing the ultimate owners can be extremely difficult.

Personally, based on what I’ve found so far, I would attribute the changes at Patheos to profit making brand building as opposed to the machinations of evangelicals or Mormons, but both could easily be in play.
An update to your investigations, Res:
DCP wrote:Some time ago, somebody over at the Peterson Obsession Board discovered that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints now owns Patheos, the platform on which this blog operates. This was said to explain a lot about me. I don’t remember what it was supposed to explain, exactly. Probably the vast amounts of money that I make from blogging, my servile obedience to the Brethren, and so forth. It also illustrated my dishonesty, since I hadn’t publicly revealed that I’m a paid mercenary who does the bidding of the leaders of the Church, here as everywhere else. I responded that, if it was true that the Church had bought a company that owned a company that owned a company that owned Patheos (or something of that sort), this was news to me, and that, so far as I could tell, whatever ownership change might have occurred hadn’t affected me in any way that I could identify. Now, though, a friend (who was writing on a totally different topic and, so far as I’m aware, is completely unaware of the alleged clandestine corporate shell game identified over at the Obsession Board, has mentioned to me in passing that, back in September 2016, Patheos was purchased by Beliefnet, which, he says, is a firm belonging to Evangelical Protestants. So not to Latter-day Saints. Now, I have no idea which of these scenarios, if either of them, is actually true. And, to be perfectly candid, I don’t much care. Not, anyway, so long as they don’t try to micromanage what I say and, of course and much more importantly, so long as the gold bullion continues to be delivered in dump trucks to my front door every morning and every evening.
Based on what you've said, it would seem that the ownership of Patheos is a bit more convoluted than what Dr. Peterson is saying here. Besides, if Patheos really *was* owned by "Evangelical Protestants," and there was an underlying ideological goal (i.e., something beyond just making money as part of what Midgley once called "that old cash nexus"), then it says a lot that they'd continue to allow their old, mortal enemies--the Mormons--to go on posting blog items in this fashion. It would imply that they saw "SeN" as something that makes the LDS Church look *bad*.
Yes, it's a touch more convoluted. But the Deseret Management Corporation website has been updated to more clearly show the chain of ownership. DMC says that both Bonneville Communications (Not Bonneville International) and the Radiant Foundation are its companies. Bonneville Communications owns Radiant Digital fka BN Media LLC. Radiant Digital owns Patheos, Beliefnet, and a few other websites. Although I think it would be fair to say that BN Media Associates LLC was owned by Evangelical Protestants at the time it purchased Patheos, the ownership changed when BN Media Associates LLC was replaced as owner by BN Media LLC, which either owns Radiant Digital or uses Radiant Digital as a dba. Either way, the top of the ownership chain is the church's for-profit company DMC.

This shuffling of ownership is no more clandestine that what goes on regularly in the U.S. when stuff is owned by holding companies. But the church's ownership of Radiant is now clear on the DMC website, so Dr. Peterson's information is a little out of date.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:21 pm
They use the same logos and font; I suspect they’re connected, but yeah, thanks for the little bit of tidying up ref the information I posted. Regardless, the LDS church owns Patheos via its for-profit entities.

eta: https://www.radiantdigital.com/contact-us
FIND US IN TWO AMAZING LOCALES
Whether you like mountains or the ocean we've got you covered with our 2 office locations.
Salt Lake City, UT
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Salt Lake City, UT 84180

Virginia Beach, Virginia
2037 Laskin Road
Virginia Beach, Virginia 23454
The SLC address is Bonneville’s HQ, I think.

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That address is also Deseret Management Corporation's address, although its on an adjacent floor. It wouldn't surprise me to find that all of DMC's companies are HQ'd in the same building.
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Regardless of how you slice it, it would appear that we have clear evidence that Dr. Peterson is being paid by the Church to do his blogging—a substantial percentage of which is Mopologetic in nature. That he has seemed to be completely ignorant of this makes it all the more amusing.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:45 pm
Regardless of how you slice it, it would appear that we have clear evidence that Dr. Peterson is being paid by the Church to do his blogging—a substantial percentage of which is Mopologetic in nature. That he has seemed to be completely ignorant of this makes it all the more amusing.
He's doing the Mormon thang and hiding the fact that he really knows what's up, but for the sake of the kingdom he believes he is a part of reality of, he keeps up phony appearances, because.... well, it makes Jesus happy, and we all know by now that apologists will just do anything to make their Jesus happy, even verbally masturbate all over themselves in public. Yes he lies for the Lord, he lies for the church, but those little lies which are designed to make things good for Mormonism don't really count as sins, because his bishop forgives him. He has a free pass to sin since it is defending God, who apparently can't do that for Himself, so he needs apologists.
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