People in all situations and environments can be prone to losing their testimonies. Even church employees.
I remember, a few months after T. Monson passed, walking into a DI and noting a shelf full of framed Monson portraits, all marked down to a buck or two.
I suspect that some folks do not ‘lose’ their testimony so much as decide to very consciously place it into the psychological box that they have reserved in a corner of their mind for donations.
People in all situations and environments can be prone to losing their testimonies. Even church employees.
I remember, a few months after T. Monson passed, walking into a DI and noting a shelf full of framed Monson portraits, all marked down to a buck or two.
I suspect that some folks do not ‘lose’ their testimony so much as decide to very consciously place it into the psychological box that they have reserved in a corner of their mind for donations.
Is that beside the shelf of coffee makers with stickers that change the "Mr Coffee" to say "Mr Hot Chocolate"?
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There is no credible witness such as diary entries, letters, or official minutes—that document McKay expressing disbelief in the Book of Mormon.
He was church president during the time of Thomas Ferguson and the New World Archeological Foundation (I think that is what it was called). There were a number of folks that were disillusioned in regards to Book of Mormon historicity during that time as a result of Ferguson's lack of 'evidence in the dirt'. It wouldn't surprise me that the personal opinions of some intellectuals and the surrounding milieu played a part in third hand speculations as to what David O. Mckay thought...and may have even put words in his mouth.
But again, there is no direct evidence that David O. McKay disbelieved in the Book of Mormon. One would think that in his extensive personal diaries there would be mention of that.
By the way, years ago I read Greg Prince's biography of McKay. Great book.
Regards,
MG
Hold up there, Little Buckaroo. You are the one that constantly claims assertions, those the LDS church promotes, ought to be taken a priori unless and until there is sufficient evidence to the contrary. Surely, you must be consistent and give this assertion of Niblets the same credence until disproven by evidence. The lack of evidence other than Niblets surely cannot be sufficient basis for you to discount the assertion that McKay did not believe.
"There will come a time when the rich own all the media, and it will be impossible for the public to make an informed opinion." Albert Einstein, ~1949 "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire
Seems like McKay had doubts based on how his posterity, his grandkids that I knew, reacted to Mormonism. They made fun of it in private and I partied a bunch with them. One of them was gay and really who cares now, but back then it was a big deal.
I partied with one of ETB's granddaughters on the Friday night before October 1979 GC was to begin. She dragged herself out of bed, which she had shared all night with my friend, to get cleaned up and her "Sunday best" on so she could go to the big buffet that Saturday between the morning and afternoon sessions. She said it was not to be missed, included lobsters, prime rib, caviar, etc.--all on the widow's mite.
"There will come a time when the rich own all the media, and it will be impossible for the public to make an informed opinion." Albert Einstein, ~1949 "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire
I've accurately described the chain of events that brought the Book of Mormon and the account of the translation of it, to you.
Of course you left some stuff out. That's the problem, IHQ. You make short little accusations/pronouncements that don't have any basis in the full range of facts and experiences that others have had other than yourself and other critics. Your world is just as closed as any fundamentalist religionist.
Your worldview seems to be very cut and dried and black and white. It's not even all that interesting from what I've been able to gather from the very little you share about yourself and your beliefs.
Mummy and Daddy. C'mon. Isn't that a bit simpleminded?
Regards,
MG
And the shoe fits as well as the glass slipper did on Cindarella's foot. You are simple minded.
"There will come a time when the rich own all the media, and it will be impossible for the public to make an informed opinion." Albert Einstein, ~1949 "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire
Seems like McKay had doubts based on how his posterity, his grandkids that I knew, reacted to Mormonism. They made fun of it in private and I partied a bunch with them. One of them was gay and really who cares now, but back then it was a big deal.
I partied with one of ETB's granddaughters on the Friday night before October 1979 GC was to begin. She dragged herself out of bed, which she had shared all night with my friend, to get cleaned up and her "Sunday best" on so she could go to the big buffet that Saturday between the morning and afternoon sessions. She said it was not to be missed, included lobsters, prime rib, caviar, etc.--all on the widow's mite.
Yeah, a few of the GA grandkids I knew said it was the best. I was always excited to know that our leaders only settled for the best. LOL.
Myth is misused by the powerful to subjugate the masses all too often.
