Hmm. Looks like 'people' means 'men' in MG's head. In any case, I am not at all sure that the women in my family would want me to refer to them as 'my women'.
I love it. Did Jesus ever refer to the need to take account of those 'complications'' I wonder? Somewhere in the Sermon on the Mount, perhaps: "By the way, you don't need to do any of this stuff if it may be a bit risky, or might cause a decrease in your property values". That bit must have dropped out during the Great Apostasy.
Why not just come right out and say "We admire this guy and sing hymns and say prayers about following our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. But we know he didn't really want us to take him literally, because that might sometimes get us into trouble."
So, what do Christians do that is so different and superior to everybody else, I wonder?
It’s very interesting to see how upset they get about simply pointing out the hypocrisy. The equivocation over it is pretty weak.
It's also interesting to observe the strictness at which those that essentially question the veracity of the New Testament and the literal Son-ship of Jesus Christ then use the words we DO have to create a very narrow view of how Christ's teachings are applicable in the modern world. They would like to put us all in a time machine and take us to the time of Jesus.
The gospel of Jesus Christ IS applicable in our day but we life in a different world with mitigating circumstances and factors that force us to "be wise as serpents and harmless as doves". In other words, to use our own brain and strive to choose wisely.
My original post on this thread is where I will stand in regards to this 'mountain made out of a molehill'.
It’s very interesting to see how upset they get about simply pointing out the hypocrisy. The equivocation over it is pretty weak.
It's also interesting to observe the strictness at which those that essentially question the veracity of the New Testament and the literal Son-ship of Jesus Christ then use the words we DO have to create a very narrow view of how Christ's teachings are applicable in the modern world. They would like to put us all in a time machine and take us to the time of Jesus.
The gospel of Jesus Christ IS applicable in our day but we life in a different world with mitigating circumstances and factors that force us to "be wise as serpents and harmless as doves". In other words, to use our own brain and strive to choose wisely.
My original post on this thread is where I will stand in regards to this 'mountain made out of a molehill'.
Regards,
MG
If Christianity is true, it’s my opinion that no amount of equivocating like this will change The Master’s mind on his judgment. But I know that’s a minority position now that conservatives worship “Republican Jesus.”
...amount of equivocating like this will change The Master’s mind on his judgment. But I know that’s a minority position now that conservatives worship “Republican Jesus.”
I hope you're not referring to me! I am not equivocating. I do not revere/worship a "Republican Jesus". I stand by my words on this thread.
...amount of equivocating like this will change The Master’s mind on his judgment. But I know that’s a minority position now that conservatives worship “Republican Jesus.”
I hope you're not referring to me! I am not equivocating. I do not revere/worship a "Republican Jesus". I stand by my words on this thread.
Regards,
MG
I won't be the ultimate judge of your view of Christ's message, of course. I just hazard you against a potential blind spot for twisting that message to suit an ideology.
As I've said many times before, if someone wants to be a follower of Christ - there are many better ways to do so than Mormonism. Mormonism trains one to be, well, a mental gymnast... instead of simply following the simple doctrines of Christ.
The gospel of Jesus Christ IS applicable in our day but we life in a different world with mitigating circumstances ...
So the poor first-century Jews addressed by Jesus, who lived under the ruthless domination of Rome, the demands of the fundamentalist Pharisees, and the constant threats of banditry, famine and epidemic disease had it easy, and could simply apply the words of Jesus in their literal meaning.
But rich Americans living in a nice suburb have it much harder, don't they? There are so many mitigating circumstances that make applying Jesus's words literally out of the question such as ... um ... oh yes, they have so much more to lose than those poverty-stricken Jews ... (Oh, wait ... what did Jesus say about rich people getting into the Kingdom of Heaven, and a camel getting through the eye of a needle?. Who COULD he have been thinking of?)
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.
The gospel of Jesus Christ IS applicable in our day but we life in a different world with mitigating circumstances ...
Even better. The poor first-century Jews who lived under the ruthless domination of Rome, the demands of the fundamentalist Pharisees, and the constant threats of banditry, famine and epidemic disease had it easy, and could simply apply the words of Jesus in their literal meaning.
But rich Americans living in a nice suburb have it much harder, don't they? There are so many mitigating circumstances that make applying Jesus's words literally out of the question such as ... um ... oh yes, they have so much more to lose than those poverty-stricken Jews ... (Oh, wait ... what did Jesus say about rich people getting into the Kingdom of Heaven, and a camel getting through the eye of a needle?. Who COULD he have been thinking of?)
If you're referring to members of the CofJCofLDS you may want to consider that along with the wealthy or moderately wealthy members of the church there are MANY who are not rich by almost any standard. The interesting thing is, however, is that no matter how rich or how poor a follower of Jesus is...they are rich. They are seeking for the blessings/riches of eternal life and living the life that God lives. Rich or poor, black or white, bond or free.
I see a common theme among critics as they look at the church and its members being addicted to riches and wealth. Some individuals that are members of the church may struggle mightily with riches in accordance to the scripture you've quoted. Humans are susceptible to that. But for critics, it's ALL ABOUT wealth. There are no lines of demarcation for the fact that wealth is/can be a means to an end of doing good in the world. Third world members of the church benefit from the wealth of first world members. When you think about it, that's a wonderful thing.
I think that when critics judge the church and its wealth and/or the wealth of those members who have earthly riches they are looking through a very narrow lens. Yep, I've talked about that before. The lens we're looking through makes a HUGE difference.
Even better. The poor first-century Jews who lived under the ruthless domination of Rome, the demands of the fundamentalist Pharisees, and the constant threats of banditry, famine and epidemic disease had it easy, and could simply apply the words of Jesus in their literal meaning.
But rich Americans living in a nice suburb have it much harder, don't they? There are so many mitigating circumstances that make applying Jesus's words literally out of the question such as ... um ... oh yes, they have so much more to lose than those poverty-stricken Jews ... (Oh, wait ... what did Jesus say about rich people getting into the Kingdom of Heaven, and a camel getting through the eye of a needle?. Who COULD he have been thinking of?)
If you're referring to members of the CofJCofLDS you may want to consider that along with the wealthy or moderately wealthy members of the church there are MANY who are not rich by almost any standard. The interesting thing is, however, is that no matter how rich or how poor a follower of Jesus is...they are rich. They are seeking for the blessings/riches of eternal life and living the life that God lives. Rich or poor, black or white, bond or free.
I see a common theme among critics as they look at the church and its members being addicted to riches and wealth. Some individuals that are members of the church may struggle mightily with riches in accordance to the scripture you've quoted. Humans are susceptible to that. But for critics, it's ALL ABOUT wealth. There are no lines of demarcation for the fact that wealth is/can be a means to an end of doing good in the world. Third world members of the church benefit from the wealth of first world members. When you think about it, that's a wonderful thing.
I think that when critics judge the church and its wealth and/or the wealth of those members who have earthly riches they are looking through a very narrow lens. Yep, I've talked about that before. The lens we're looking through makes a HUGE difference.
Regards,
MG
Why doesn’t the Church use chapels as overnight shelters for homeless people, and do you think Jesus has approved that decision?
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
People [..] want their women to be safe and protected from the dangers of rape,
Hmm. Looks like 'people' means 'men' in MG's head. In any case, I am not at all sure that the women in my family would want me to refer to them as 'my women'.
Hi Chap. It's interesting that mentalgymnast agrees with you that the women in his family would not like how he posts here about women, but he's going to stand by his comment anyway. At least, here.
Something tells me his sexism gets shut down in real life, so he comes here to flex his sexist muscles, as though it somehow assuages the humiliation.
...I see a common theme among critics as they look at the church and its members being addicted to riches and wealth. Some individuals that are members of the church may struggle mightily with riches in accordance to the scripture you've quoted. Humans are susceptible to that. But for critics, it's ALL ABOUT wealth...
Another sweeping stereotype about mentalgymnast's favorite group to hate!
...There are no lines of demarcation for the fact that wealth is/can be a means to an end of doing good in the world. Third world members of the church benefit from the wealth of first world members. When you think about it, that's a wonderful thing...
That's just laughable. People are repulsed by the obscene level of wealth hoarded by the lds church, but mentalymnast wants others to focus on the teensy dribbles of money that are squeezed out under great protest. The lds church 'donates' only because it got caught not donating, and it's trying to rehabilitate its image. It's not working, though. It's obvious that the emphasis is on donating as little as possible while overpublicizing every tiny event. It's just pharisees praying out open windows.
If you're referring to members of the CofJCofLDS you may want to consider that along with the wealthy or moderately wealthy members of the church there are MANY who are not rich by almost any standard. The interesting thing is, however, is that no matter how rich or how poor a follower of Jesus is...they are rich. They are seeking for the blessings/riches of eternal life and living the life that God lives. Rich or poor, black or white, bond or free.
I see a common theme among critics as they look at the church and its members being addicted to riches and wealth. Some individuals that are members of the church may struggle mightily with riches in accordance to the scripture you've quoted. Humans are susceptible to that. But for critics, it's ALL ABOUT wealth. There are no lines of demarcation for the fact that wealth is/can be a means to an end of doing good in the world. Third world members of the church benefit from the wealth of first world members. When you think about it, that's a wonderful thing.
I think that when critics judge the church and its wealth and/or the wealth of those members who have earthly riches they are looking through a very narrow lens. Yep, I've talked about that before. The lens we're looking through makes a HUGE difference.
Regards,
MG
Why doesn’t the Church use chapels as overnight shelters for homeless people, and do you think Jesus has approved that decision?
Jesus is fine with overnights and needle exchanges. Everybody knows that. But not at his house or at your house. We all agree on that.
Ban Whiskey permanently if that's the only way.
— Gadianton
