Pres Holland has died

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Another prophecy bites the dust. Someone should have checked the aim on Holland’s musket.

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Thu Jan 01, 2026 6:56 pm
Another prophecy bites the dust. Someone should have checked the aim on Holland’s musket.

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"when a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously; thou shalt not be afraid of him." --Deut 18:22

It's almost as if they never read the Hebrew Bible (that they claim to believe in.)
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bill4long wrote:
Thu Jan 01, 2026 6:04 pm
How many times did he take off his expensive suit, go downtown and minister to the poor, needy, drug addicts, prostitutes, and mentally ill?
Good question! Do you know the answer?

I think it is worth considering, having actually listened to his three kids yesterday, that they sincerely saw/see him as not only being a Christ-like and loving father, but also one who was called to serve as an apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Their witness should not simply be pushed aside because you don't believe.

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Jan 01, 2026 7:16 pm
bill4long wrote:
Thu Jan 01, 2026 6:04 pm
How many times did he take off his expensive suit, go downtown and minister to the poor, needy, drug addicts, prostitutes, and mentally ill?
Good question! Do you know the answer?

I think it is worth considering, having actually listened to his three kids yesterday, that they sincerely saw/see him as not only being a Christ-like and loving father, but also one who was called to serve as an apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Their witness should not simply be pushed aside because you don't believe.

Regards,
MG
So, no specific examples then…Donald Trump’s kids will say very nice things about him at his funeral.
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Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Jan 01, 2026 7:16 pm
bill4long wrote:
Thu Jan 01, 2026 6:04 pm
How many times did he take off his expensive suit, go downtown and minister to the poor, needy, drug addicts, prostitutes, and mentally ill?
Good question! Do you know the answer?

I think it is worth considering, having actually listened to his three kids yesterday, that they sincerely saw/see him as not only being a Christ-like and loving father, but also one who was called to serve as an apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Their witness should not simply be pushed aside because you don't believe.

Regards,
MG
Believe what?
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Jan 01, 2026 7:16 pm
bill4long wrote:
Thu Jan 01, 2026 6:04 pm
How many times did he take off his expensive suit, go downtown and minister to the poor, needy, drug addicts, prostitutes, and mentally ill?
Good question! Do you know the answer?
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None that can be documented or attested to by anyone.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Jan 01, 2026 7:16 pm
bill4long wrote:
Thu Jan 01, 2026 6:04 pm
How many times did he take off his expensive suit, go downtown and minister to the poor, needy, drug addicts, prostitutes, and mentally ill?
Good question! Do you know the answer?
Regards,
MG
Do you know of any downtrodden poor, drug addict, prostitute, or mentally ill person who has come forward to thank Jeff for healing them with the apostlical powers he supposedly had?

I didn't think so.

There's you assignment. Go to it.
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