Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

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Re: Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

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Craig Paxton wrote:Lol all of DCP's countless hours work in cognate accusative apologetics destroyed with one single discovery by the Johnson brothers. Peterson has got to be pissed...

Not sure DCP did countless hours of work on cognate accusatives for apologetic purposes. DCP makes a living as an Arabist, and cognate accusative forms are deeply embedded in the Arabic language. So cognate accusatives may have simply been an apologetic target of opportunity for him.
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Runtu wrote:
lostindc wrote:just in case this is the "smoking gun" I want it know to my friends and family that I witnessed this quickly develop.

I was here.

If not, then oh well.


There is no smoking gun and never will be. Sure, you and I probably see certain things in Mormonism as being obvious smoking guns, but it really doesn't matter. In matters of religious faith, there are no smoking guns.


This is realistically accurate. It is why religions scream for faith.....faith is completely flexible and adjustable. Something wrong? Adjust faith and skew the information a little and all is well continues in Zion.....
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DrW wrote:
Craig Paxton wrote:Lol all of DCP's countless hours work in cognate accusative apologetics destroyed with one single discovery by the Johnson brothers. Peterson has got to be pissed...

Not sure DCP did countless hours of work on cognate accusatives for apologetic purposes. DCP makes a living as an Arabist, and cognate accusative forms are deeply embedded in the Arabic language. So cognate accusatives may have simply been an apologetic target of opportunity for him.


He used cognate accusatives to prop up his claim that the origin of the Book of Mormon has near eastern roots. All of that apologetic work has been completely undermined by this revelation. However long it took him...that Book of Mormon prop no longer stands unanswered.

Score another point for a 19th century work of fiction...
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Lol all of DCP's countless hours work in cognate accusative apologetics destroyed with one single discovery by the Johnson brothers. Peterson has got to be pissed...
Not sure DCP did countless hours of work on cognate accusatives for apologetic purposes. DCP makes a living as an Arabist, and cognate accusative forms are deeply embedded in the Arabic language. So cognate accusatives may have simply been an apologetic target of opportunity for him.

He used cognate accusatives to prop up his claim that the origin of the Book of Mormon has near eastern roots. All of that apologetic work has been completely undermined by this revelation. However long it took him...that Book of Mormon prop no longer stands unanswered.


As does many supposedly unique themes. I was taught in Sunday School for years before my mission that the 2,000 stripling warriors was one of the most profound revelations of reality and ancient truth demonstrating God loves obedience and righteousness, and we as missionaries are symbolically these kinds of unique and singularly mentioned in any literature kind of warriors for God. Along those lines anyway.
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Runtu wrote:
lostindc wrote:you're most likely right. This text has sent a lot of folks clamouring. The MD&Ds board is starting to discuss.

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/62041-book-of-mormon-new-evidence-of-19th-century-origin/page-6


Yep. It's been interesting to see the responses, especially the ones that say, Of course the Book of Mormon mimics the Bible; no one said it didn't, and no one has argued that it's unique. Well, yes, they have.


There will be lots of apologetic back peddling over this, but nothing to lose your faith over. At some point BC Space will just say the Book of Mormon was never doctrine and he doesn't know anyone who ever thought it was.
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Gadianton wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:You can't really look to BCSpace...


BCSpace may not want to defend the Church anymore, he might leave and start a better one based on this book. Check this out:

Las Vegas 26 wrote:And the mighty kings and potentates of the earth shall learn, from this example of Republican patriotism, that the PEOPLE are the only "legitimate sovereigns" of the land of Columbia


Now it's official doctrine that the Republican Party is God's party.


:lol: This is great. The Book of Mormon looks like the communist manifesto compared to this.
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you're most likely right. This text has sent a lot of folks clamouring. The MD&Ds board is starting to discuss.

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/62041-book-of-mormon-new-evidence-of-19th-century-origin/page-6

Yep. It's been interesting to see the responses, especially the ones that say, Of course the Book of Mormon mimics the Bible; no one said it didn't, and no one has argued that it's unique. Well, yes, they have.

There will be lots of apologetic back peddling over this, but nothing to lose your faith over. At some point BC Space will just say the Book of Mormon was never doctrine and he doesn't know anyone who ever thought it was.

:lol: They might even finally admit that the prophets in ancient Book of Mormon times are the dead prophets and merely gave their own opinion.....
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Another example proving the antiquity of Gilbert Hunt's inspired history of the people of 1800s America is this noticeable Hebraism:

Algerine War, v. 39, p. 230

And all the people were rejoiced with great joy, and they made feasts for him, and extolled his name.
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Kishkumen wrote:Another example proving the antiquity of Gilbert Hunt's inspired history of the people of 1800s America is this noticeable Hebraism:

Algerine War, v. 39, p. 230

And all the people were rejoiced with great joy, and they made feasts for him, and extolled his name.


Now, that is beautiful, sir.
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Interestingly, Anne Hathaway sang a Hebraic song in Les Miserables.
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