A Meltdown of Epic Proportions

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Re: A Meltdown of Epic Proportions

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Mattie wrote:Never mind. I found a website about it. Never heard of it before now. I don't think I know any NOMs myself. But it looks as if there are quite a few. Are they mostly in the Salt Lake/Provo/Ogden area? When did there start being NOMs?

I think you do know some, you just do not realize they are NOMs. They are everywhere throughout the Church. No one at church on sundays dares mention that they believe some but not all of the teachings that emanate from the correlation committee at the COB in SLC. They have been around from the days of the Whitmers and Oliver Cowdery.
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Re: A Meltdown of Epic Proportions

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liz3564 wrote:
Ray publicly posted the PM you sent to him. Shades and I were both online at the same time. I read it before Shades deleted it. Let me make clear that I did NOT go into Ray's PM's, or yours, and read them. I do not HAVE that ability..and even if I did, that is something I would NEVER do. That was actually done to me when I was a poster at FAIR/MAD. I know how it feels to have that happen.

My comments referred to Ray's public posting of what you sent to him...and I stand by the fact that, if it was, in fact, true, it is horrible, and as a parent, I am sickened by it, and don't understand how someone could say something like that to another human being.



Liz, thanks for trying to learn both sides of the story before posting those terrible things about me on the "The Cafeteria". Heaven forbid that you would want to learn both sides before publicly maligning me.

Just so I'm clear, if you read a PM prior to deleting it, then you obviously feel that posting anything about that PM on "The Cafeteria" is okay? If not, please tell me what I am missing.

Anyone who is posting PMs should be VERY concerned that you are a Moderator, Liz. Any PM that you are made aware of is now fair game for you to post anywhere you see fit.

I'm not that disturbed that you would misrepresent one side of the story (it's clear that you hate me from the things you posted about me), what is disturbing to me is that you are using information from PMs you have learned as a Moderator and posting such on other forums.

Please tell me why you feel your actions were appropriate. I am at a complete loss after reading your "explanation".
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Re: A Meltdown of Epic Proportions

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All I did was attempt to comfort Ray, a friend of mine, who was upset because you sent him a very nasty PM about his daughters.

What I said on that thread (which is now gone, by the way, along with the rest of the website), is that I had enjoyed quite a few of your posts. However, the content of the PM that Ray publicly posted was way over the line, and that there is no excuse for anyone to post anything like that about someone's child, ever.
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Re: A Meltdown of Epic Proportions

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liz3564 wrote:
My comments referred to Ray's public posting of what you sent to him...and I stand by the fact that, if it was, in fact, true, it is horrible, and as a parent, I am sickened by it, and don't understand how someone could say something like that to another human being.


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Liz, please stop lying. You know as well as I do I never publicly posted anything like that. Please point me to where the public posting is that says such things. It doesn't exist and you know it. Disturbing.

Liz, what did you think of Ray's PMs to me? Interesting that no mention of the horrible things your "friend" Ray PMd to me.

Back on topic, if you read a PM prior to deleting it, then you obviously feel that posting anything about that PM on "The Cafeteria" is okay?

In any event, Liz. I realize that you hate me, misaligned me and used information you received as a Moderator to post on your site.

I don't want an apology or more lies from you. Just please don't do it again. This board deserves better, Liz.
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Re: A Meltdown of Epic Proportions

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
liz3564 wrote:
My comments referred to Ray's public posting of what you sent to him...and I stand by the fact that, if it was, in fact, true, it is horrible, and as a parent, I am sickened by it, and don't understand how someone could say something like that to another human being.




Liz, please stop lying. You know as well as I do I never publicly posted anything like that. Please point me to where the public posting is that says such things. It doesn't exist and you know it. Disturbing.

Liz, what did you think of Ray's PMs to me? Interesting that no mention of the horrible things your "friend" Ray PMd to me.

Back on topic, if you read a PM prior to deleting it, then you obviously feel that posting anything about that PM on "The Cafeteria" is okay?

In any event, Liz. I realize that you hate me, misaligned me and used information you received as a Moderator to post on your site.

I don't want an apology or more lies from you. Just please don't do it again. This board deserves better, Liz.[/quote]

Wang,

Read her posts again. NOWHERE did she say that you posted it publicly.
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Re: A Meltdown of Epic Proportions

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How many icebergs are melting down in this thread?
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Does anyone else get where this is going?

Or is it just me....
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
liz3564 wrote:
My comments referred to Ray's public posting of what you sent to him...and I stand by the fact that, if it was, in fact, true, it is horrible, and as a parent, I am sickened by it, and don't understand how someone could say something like that to another human being.




Liz, please stop lying. You know as well as I do I never publicly posted anything like that. Please point me to where the public posting is that says such things. It doesn't exist and you know it. Disturbing.

Liz, what did you think of Ray's PMs to me? Interesting that no mention of the horrible things your "friend" Ray PMd to me.

Back on topic, if you read a PM prior to deleting it, then you obviously feel that posting anything about that PM on "The Cafeteria" is okay?

In any event, Liz. I realize that you hate me, misaligned me and used information you received as a Moderator to post on your site.

I don't want an apology or more lies from you. Just please don't do it again. This board deserves better, Liz.


I didn't say that you publicly posted anything. I said that Ray publicly posted a PM that you sent him.

Ray initiated the thread on my board called "I'm Angry". The thread has been deleted now, so there is no way I can pull up the information. This is going to end up remaining a he said/she said situation. You will, no doubt, claim that I am lying, but I'll state what happened, anyway, and let folks think as they see fit.

Ray posted on my board that Everybody Wang Chung had sent him a disparaging PM about his daughters. I empathized with Ray, and stated that I had read the PM(publicly posted by Ray), and stated that it was horrible, and way over the line. I also stated that I didn't understand how someone could post something like that about someone else's child.

Are you stating that you didn't post what Ray is claiming? Having known Ray for as long as I have known him, I find it hard to believe that he would lie about something like that. Based on my friendship with him, you're right. I took his word over yours.

I honestly hope that you didn't say the things that he claimed. If you did, you are pure slime.
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Re: A Meltdown of Epic Proportions

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My message to any mole or moles and DCP is simple. Screw yourself repeatedly if you think it will help only don't screw with my friend where I can see it.




Jersey Girl I respect you for your forthrightness..but I disagree that the person revealing the gossiping going on on that board did anything wrong. The problem isn't the mole, the problem is that the gossipers, the cowards are exposed..when it's normally hidden by pms.
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Re: A Meltdown of Epic Proportions

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marg wrote:
My message to any mole or moles and DCP is simple. Screw yourself repeatedly if you think it will help only don't screw with my friend where I can see it.




Jersey Girl I respect you for your forthrightness..but I disagree that the person revealing the gossiping going on on that board did anything wrong. The problem isn't the mole, the problem is that the gossipers, the cowards are exposed..when it's normally hidden by pms.


Which is why I cited DCP for bringing it to another board and noted that there were a few other hit and miss threads, nothing like the chronic behavior of DCP though.

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