Happy Valley Photo Essay

[_Simon Belmont]

Quotemine away, DJ! It's what you're best at.

(for anyone actually interested, I haven't ever used a sock puppet here, on MDB.)

[_Kishkumen]

It's okay if you aren't familiar with Heidegger, Kishkumen. Stick with the Stoics: Epictetus may have been where the root word Epic derived from ;)

I'm afraid not, Simon. You don't get off that easy. You've displayed trivia, not real knowledge. Nice try though. If you had the least clue what real learning was about, you wouldn't try pulling that BS. Your cluelessness is manifest in trying to pass that off as a learned display.

F.

[_Kishkumen]

If he is not oxygenadam, then it is really sad to know that two Mopologists can be clueless in almost exactly the same way. That looks much worse for Mopologetics.

[_Kishkumen]

Quotemine away, DJ! It's what you're best at.

(for anyone actually interested, I haven't ever used a sock puppet here, on MDB.)

Sub-DCP nonsense.

[_Darth J]

Quotemine away, DJ! It's what you're best at.

(for anyone actually interested, I haven't ever used a sock puppet here, on MDB.)

Which quote is taken out of context?

And, as you constantly do, you are mischaracterizing the issue. Nobody said Oxygenadam is your sock puppet.

A significant difference between the use of a pseudonym and the creation of a sockpuppet is that the sockpuppet poses as an independent third-party unaffiliated with the puppeteer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_%28Internet%29

MrStakhanovite and I are saying that you used to post as Oxygenadam, then stopped, then started using "Simon Belmont."

[_Kishkumen]

MrStakhanovite and I are saying that you used to post as Oxygenadam, then stopped, then started using "Simon Belmont."

I don't think there is any question that the slippery fool known as Simon Belmont was oxygenadam.

[_Darth J]

If he is not oxygenadam, then it is really sad to know that two Mopologists can be clueless in almost exactly the same way. That looks much worse for Mopologetics.

Isn't it also amazing how one Mopologist disciple uses the same stock phrases and themes, then quits, and then a few days later another Moplogist disciple comes along and uses those same stock phrases and themes?

[_sock puppet]

Utterly ridiculous to say that Simon Belmont used to post as "Oxygenadam."

Nothing is certain, my dear. There are things we must accept on faith, for we do not even know that we exist. I have faith that I do exist, and that you exist, and that Betty White exists, and that God exists, because I can see the evidences for those things. However, evidence =/ proof.

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 14#p342814

From a certain point of view, one might come to this conclusion. However, as I have shown, there are many people with the name "Santa Claus." Furthermore, was there a historical Christopher Kringle? How about a Saint Nicholas? These people are generally accepted to have existed.

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 67#p342967

Oh, your grandfather was a Mormon bishop? That must make you an expert on all things Mormon, right?

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 18#p342718

Referring to Santa Claus being a real person:

There are plenty of them:

http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPe ... aus&where=

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 05#p342705

Protesting General Conference with hate signs, setting up hate-istry booths to pamphlet Conference goers, waving LDS sacred garments around on pigpoles is most certainly not opinion. Please tell me where your beloved DCP ever did any of these things to another faith group.

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 63#p341263

Okay, you're right. I should not have included you without knowing you. I maintain that it is our constitutional right, and our God given free will to criticize anything we wish. It is immoral to protest, pamphlet, or publish against an organization.

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 03#p340903

Again. I am right here. Why are you referring to me in the second person?

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God did not say that the people, the churches, or the practices or beliefs of the churches are an abomination. He said the extra biblical creeds are.

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 63#p340863

They're viewed as having incorrect doctrines by the LDS Faith. But you've never seen an LDS person pamphleteer, protest, or publish anything against another faith.

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Did he publish, phamphleteer, or protest a Presbyterian meeting? Did he publish The Maze of Presbyterianism?

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 21#p340821

So, until you can tell me where an LDS author or apologist has published anything remotely like following titles, your argument holds no merit.


The Changing World of Calvinism: A Behind-the-Scenes Look at Changes in Calvinist Doctrine and Practice

The Counterfeit Gospel of Calvinism: The Great Divide Between Calvinism and Christianity

Calvinism, magic and Masonry

Calvinism--shadow or reality?

The Maze of Calvinism

Is the Calvinist My Brother?: Discerning the Differences Between Calvinism and Christianity

The God Makers: A Shocking Expose of What the Calvinist Church Really Believes

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 89#p340789

You've gotten this far in the discussion remembering what you learned in PHIL101, now let's see if you can take it a step further:

Have you read Kant's "three critiques?" (Critique of Pure Reason, Critique of Practical Judgement, and Critique of Practical Reason?).

If you have, wonderful. If you have not, then I recommend you do so. http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 12#p340412

I don't know why you consider me an apologist at all, since I don't consider myself as such.

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 13#p340113

There sure is a lot of high-fiving and Doctor Scratch worshiping going on around here. Does anyone have a mind of their own, or when Scratch proclaims something has the thinking been done? http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 41#p340041

So, we are in agreement that anyone can make up any compound word at any time, and it should be accepted into colloquial speech? http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 95#p339795

And since we're making up words, I henceforth declare that all ministries of hate (like Utah Lighthouse Ministry, and Alpha and Omega ministries) shall be known as "hinistries." http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 41#p339741

Since "Mo" is not a recognized prefix in the English language, I did not recognize that it means "Mormon." What does the "mo" in "money" represent?

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Where did I say it was wrong? I said it was cruel, but necessary. Sometimes "tough love" apologetics are necessary to combat the hate spewing from anti-Mormon mouths and pens.

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 57#p339557

The apologists would not exist if there were no critics. http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 20#p339520

If there weren't anti-Mormons, there would be no "mopologetics." It's as simple as that. http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 33#p338333

There sure is a lot of backslapping and high-five-ing going on around here. http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 66#p338066

In essence, yes. For example, if I went to the heart of Jerusalem and started an anti-Semite bookstore, and expected to peacefully coexist with the Jewish population, I would either have to be completely insane, or completely stupid. If I went to Salt Lake City, during a Pentecostal Church convention, and gave seminars titled "Understanding our Mormon Neighbors" that blatantly made false representations, I would have to be insane, or stupid to think that it would not meet with opposition.

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Let me say it again, Scratch, Apologists would not exist if anti-Mormonism didn't exist. http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 65#p338065

"Mopologetics" is not a word. http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 40#p336640

So Sandra Tanner got confronted at her place of business and asked some challenging questions concerning what her place of business sells. After 20 years of spewing hate filled poison from her lips and defiling someone's sacred held belief's with her mighty pen? http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 44#p336544

By the way, Oxygenadam's last post as of this moment was 07/26/10. Simon Belmont's first post was 08/04/10.

Thanks, Darth J. You have in one post cited more evidence that Simon was once Oxygenadam than all of NAMIRS (and FARMS too) has ever been able to marshal to the proposition that there is any plausibility for Mormonism's truth claims.

[_Kishkumen]

Isn't it also amazing how one Mopologist disciple uses the same stock phrases and themes, then quits, and then a few days later another Moplogist disciple comes along and uses those same stock phrases and themes?

Isn't it wonderful? Isn't it marvelous?

[_Simon Belmont]

This just in: Darth J. is Adolf Hitler.

this principle

this principle

only after

only after

no doubt

no doubt